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The New Wood Stock Franklin Styled Hybrid Stove

Discussion in 'Modern EPA Stoves and Fireplaces' started by Huntindog1, Jun 26, 2015.

  1. Huntindog1

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    I wonder what length of wood will it take?

    It's supposed to be a 2.6 cu ft stove.
     
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    I too am curious, have my own list of wonders:
    • what will be the rear center line?
    • what will the basic version look like? (no wing love here)
    • what decorative/soapstone options will there be?
    • what will the final emissions and efficiency numbers be?
    • what is the availability date?
    • will I be tempted to return my new Fireview in exchange for the new stove during my no-risk period ending 12/31/2015?
    Can't see that last one happening; every day I look at the Fireview and enjoy the natural and unique patterns of the soapstone. The last fire I had was just amazing to me - of course I am coming off the use of a 25 year old stove, so it takes less to amaze me than those of you running more modern stoves. Hard for me to grasp how much better the PH, IS and the new stove can be than the Fireview.
     
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    Please don't quote me on this but I think it will take 16-18" wood.

    Final design is not out yet. Don't hold your breath waiting for this to hit the market this fall. It will happen but probably not that soon. I do not expect this to get rushed into the market like the last few new ones and that should be good for all.
     
  4. My IS heats my home

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    I'll bet the betas will make it to the testers homes this winter and the following summer the Franklin will makes its way out after the EPA runs their tests. BrianK may have some facts on the split length, I believe he's seen it.
     
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    I think Backwoods Savage's estimate was correct:
    But I don't have any specific knowledge on split length.
     
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    I hope you are correct regarding the timing. With all their current models compliant to the new EPA standards and healthy demand for the newest stoves, there seems to be little need to rush out a new design to the market.

    When I finalized my Fireview order several months ago, I had asked at that time when I would be able to find out details such as center line height and at that time they told me within three months. This lead me to believe we were closer to the actual launch.
     
  7. chucker

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    this is like the apple watch. you can't have a solution chasing a problem and maybe a problem nobody has. woodstock already makes very reputable hardware. if the franklin demonstrates ultra high schmutz efficiency then it gives the company technology they will need within a decade but maybe nothing tangible for the user. there are only two useful parameters, burn time and wood usage.
    i wouldn't have the doubts if it had a very large firebox. then you are getting something pretty good almost for sure. the firebox is smaller and maybe less burn time than an IS, so it had better use less firewood otherwise what's the niche. all speculation we will find out late next winter.
    however. even if this stove does not have a strong niche it's impressive that the factory is so fierce with R&D. a stove is a longer term property. if this one doesn't tickle your fancy it will represent technological progress and something to build on and there will be something better in short order.
    this is the beauty of being a WS customer. they are the place to get your stuff from.
     
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    Makes me wonder if anyone has considered that the size of the stove counts for a lot when buying. This stove, being smaller than the IS can satisfy many users even if no improvements were made in the burning.
     
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    +1 on that observation

    With my current home and heating needs, the only two WS models that I could see installing are the Fireview (2.2) and the new model (2.5) . The IS and PH models are more than I need .
     
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    For a well controlled cat stove, the difference between 2.6 and 3.2 isn't that great.

    There are other considerations. Clearances? Physical size? And this one is supposed to be a side loader.

    If Woodstock could offer a more convective stove with a blower option, and requiring only ember protection, I might be first in line. And side loading might be a deal breaker. Shame, because I kinda like the styling of the teaser pics.
     
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    my IS heats a 900 square foot house. it's always possible to put a smaller load into a large stove. it helps that when we laid the area out there was ample room for the hardware. i can see where a physically smaller stove would find its market niche, it's just contrary to the way i have always done things. stoves are not a 'less is more' item.
     
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    I'm a perfect example of needing a smaller stove in my family room. The 2 key features I need are:

    1) External size similar to Fireview AND decent clearances
    2) Overnight burn capability.

    That's it. Everything else is icing on the cake. A right side load would be perfect but I'll be abe to load either side.

    Replacing this.
     

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    You're right about that. The well controlled part is what makes the difference between a good stove and a great stove. Once you have control of burn rate, the stove could be 4 CF and still put out the same low output as a 2 CF stove.
     
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    Keystone/Palladian?
     
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    I may be interested in this new stove if it looks better than the pics I saw on their site and if I can make it fit. I can't believe I've had this Keystone for almost 5 years, that's a record for me.
     
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    Either might work, although I'm not certain I'd make it through for an all night burn, but assuming it would, that wold be an alternative.
     
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    I wonder if the 2.6 Franklin will have a different cat than the IS? do you suppose they might use the same one?
     
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    No problems with overnight burns here. Most of the time I burn a 12 hour reload schedule.
     
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    That's good to know, but I will say having experienced the heat output of the hybrid technology I will most likely favor that, assuming the Franklin takes after the Progress and it's big brother the Ideal Steel with their ability to throw remarkable heat. Plus the little extra volume if all other factors are equal. Of course, there is always the possibility of a refurbed Keystone coming off the used market at a really attractive price that might fit my needs as well. I"ve always loved the looks of the Keystones.
     
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    It would make sense.
     
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