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Tax Rebate on new EPA Stoves

Discussion in 'Modern EPA Stoves and Fireplaces' started by Huntindog1, Jan 1, 2015.

  1. Huntindog1

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    Reported from the For Green Heat Website Bog
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    Tuesday, December 23, 2014

    How to claim the $300 stove tax credit[/paste:font]

    [​IMG]President Obama signed into a law a package of tax credits including the one for wood and pellet stoves. The stove credit is for $300 for stoves purchased between Jan. 1, 2014 and Dec. 31 2014, making it almost entirely a retroactive “incentive.”

    To take the credit, taxpayers need to use IRS Form 5695. A biomass stove purchase would be claimed in line 22a of form 5695. The form can be confusing because it never specifies biomass heating equipment, even though its included in the tax break. Taxpayers do not have submit receipts with their taxes. They just have to keep the sales receipt and the declaration from the manufacturer stating the stove is eligible, in their records.

    [​IMG]There is a $500 limit is a lifetime limit for all energy efficiency property, including insulation, doors,
    windows or other wood or pellet stoves. So, if a taxpayer has claimed $300 in previous years, for example, they could only claim $200 on the 2014 taxes for a qualifying stove.

    The tax credit can also apply to wood and pellet boilers. For outdoor boilers, check this EPA list for efficiency levels. Of the 39 qualified outdoor wood and pellet boilers on the list, only 13 appear to qualify for the tax credit. (Industry uses the European lower heating value (LHV) to qualify for the tax credit, but American HVAC products use the higher heating value (HHV). The EPA list uses HHV values and anything on the EPA list that is under 68% efficiency HHV, is not likely to be 75% LHV. If a manufacturer, claims a unit on this list qualifies for the tax credit, but has no efficiency rating or is listed at 67% or lower, you may want to contact the EPA to confirm.)

    Since this is almost entirely retroactive, stove retailers may want to contact customers from 2014 and notify them that they may now be eligible for the tax credit.

    The credit is available to qualifying stoves that are 75% efficient or greater. Industry used a loophole so that virtually every EPA certified wood stove, and every pellet stove (certified and uncertified) qualifies as 75% efficient. Stove manufacturers were allowed to self-certify their efficiency, using a variety of efficiency calculations and choosing whichever test came out highest. For more on this topic, click here.

    Other heating and cooling equipment had far stricter qualification standards to ensure that consumers got a tax credit for a genuinely more efficient appliance or item. With pellet stoves especially, consumers could have bought a 55% efficient stove, but calculated their fuel savings at 75%, based on manufacturers assurances. Experts believe that 75% (LHV) may be about the average efficiency of a wood or pellet stove. Despite claims from industry and many other source, pellet stoves are not necessarily any more efficient than wood stoves.

    [​IMG]Natural gas, propane, or oil furnace or hot water boiler with an annual fuel utilization (AFUE) rate of 95 or greater: $150

    Split system air source heat pump that meets or exceeds 15 SEER/12.5 EER/8.5 HSPF: $300

    Split system central air conditioner that meets or exceeds 16 SEER and 13 EER: $300

    Natural gas, propane, or oil water heater which has either an energy factor of at least 0.82 or a thermal efficiency of at least 90 percent: $300

    Electric heat pump water heater with an energy factor (EF) of at least 2.0: $300

    The 2014 tax break cost taxpayers about $42 billion. The tax credit for stoves alone is not likely to cost more than $50 million and that’s if a majority of people who bought stoves learn about the credit and take it on their tax return.

    By re-enacting the extenders only for 2014, lawmakers have effectively forced themselves to consider the temporary breaks again next year and have opened the door to ending or refashioning some. Experts say it is highly unlikely that the current batch of tax credits will be extended again in 2015, but some other legislation will be crafted that will selectively extend some, possibly permanently, but at least for multiple years.
    While re-instating the tax credits helps many homeowners and businesses, simply extending them to the end of the year offers little certainty going forward for various clean energy sectors. For the stove manufacturers, the tax credit can give a small boost to sales but the production tax credits for the wind industry can be vital to whether large scale projects move forward or not.
    - See more at: http://forgreenheat.blogspot.com/#sthash.UJireVQf.dpuf
     
  2. Grizzly Adam

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    This applies to our dear Myriads, doesn't it?
     
  3. bogydave

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    Good deal
    Had state & federal rebates few years ago.
    Helped me insulate & get the King
    Good stuff :yes:
     
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  4. Horkn

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    Well, this is great news. I just hope they extend it for 2015 as I plan on getting an insert for my fireplace over summer.
     
  5. My IS heats my home

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    Looks like the IS will do me and about 17 others, good on taxes this year
     
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    What is resistive heat? I bought both a pellet stove and a wood stove in 2014.

    Water Heaters, Heat pumps, Motors, Electric Thermal Storage, Resistive Heat, Terminal Units, and Geothermal heat pumps
     
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    Federal Residential Renewable Energy Tax Credit
    • Purpose: For Solar Water Heat, Photovoltaics, Wind, Fuel Cells, Geothermal Heat Pumps, Other Solar Electric Technologies, Fuel Cells using Renewable Fuels.
    • Incentive: Personal income tax credit in the amount of 30% the total system cost of residential energy efficient property, with no upper limit.
    • Expiration: 12/31/2016

    Fuel Cells using Renewable Fuels?
     
  8. Horkn

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    Resistive heat is a fancy way of saying electric heat. Baseboard electric heaters are resistive heaters.
     
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  9. Horkn

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    This ones less easily explained. It's not something most consumers would use.
    http://www.ncsl.org/research/energy/fuel-cells-clean-and-reliable-energy.aspx
     
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    Thanks!! I skimmed through this article, I kept seeing the flux capacitor from back to the future LOL. Unfortunately it doesnt look like there are any incentives for me. I think I claimed most of the fed $500 when we foam insulated my previous home.
     
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    My little, big stove (Englander 13NC) qualified according to my accountant. I downloaded the the form for my tax man, and all was golden. This was in 2012.
     
  12. Grizzly Adam

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    Do I have to file as itemized to get this?
     
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  13. Horkn

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    If It's like the other items on the energy bill, then i don't think you need to do itemized.
     
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    I think its called a tax credit or something like that so that you can get it if you dont file itemized. Most of those rebates work that way.

    We need firecracker_77 here.
     
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    I do not remember what form it went on, but we always itemize....
     
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    The form is at the top. That form is then added to your 1040 on the tax return. I dont believe you have to itemize. The itimizes deductions get added to a different line. Bit I am no tax expert...although I do do my own and I itemize and use several schedules as well.
     
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    TurboTax will do it for you
     
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    I use online free tax software. It does it All like turbo tax
     
  19. Grizzly Adam

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    I use h&r block's software.
     
  20. clemsonfor

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    It will tell u then. Just say yes I have an energetic effentcy improvement and follow directions.