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Poop chute HACK

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  1. cnice_37

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    It's Ok, the thread is SFW!

    I'm not a plumber but know this ain't right! Bought this place 12 years ago, tiled the floor myself. It shows I didn't know to take care and tile close to drain!

    The real problem is, the flange is a hack. It has no bolt holes!??!! My dad must have set the toilet and put in the metal ring and called it done.

    Now I want to fix it right. I found this product, maybe my solution after cutting the existing flare fitting flush?



    Help... ironpony basod and anyone else!!

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    You can buy flange adapters that bolt to the floor, looks like that might have been what was there. They come in both metal and PVC.
     
  3. cnice_37

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    Link?? Help me out Adam.

    And my link didn't appear? trying again...

    Arghhh can't link a url?!
     
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    That looks like a "chitty chituation"....

    Sorry I couldn't help myself!

    I like Adams idea. I had a similar problem years ago before I remodeled the house, the old cast iron flange had broken off. I ended up making a stainless steel contraption that surrounded the remaining flange and bolted to the floor, it worked and lasted several years until I gutted and totally re-plumbed the house.
     
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    Is the link from Amazon? Something about that site doesn't like to be linked here.
     
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    Yeah it was.
     
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    I see the link.... and it works for me.

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  10. ironpony

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    cut it off flush with an oscillating tool, recommended in the other thread and then insert the flange you picked out. Might want to "grout" fill around pipe so the new flange sits flat on something.
     
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    I also have to agree with Grizzly the flange that was there could be screwed to the floor and the toilet bolts are inserted in the slots. Again I would fill under the flange flush to the tile
     
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    What’s the tile setting on?
    Slab/or subfloor?

    I don’t like the metal repair rings especially on a slab as the wax ring leaks it’ll just rust out before you notice there’s a problem.

    The floor flange looks proud of the tile which will lead to never ending ring failure and toilet rock. If you’re setting the new flange set it just shy of finished tile grade.

    Haven’t tried the new forever foam rings yet, maybe next time
     
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    Looks like that is what happened last time, I would recommend PVC.
     
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    Those repair rings work pretty well in the right situations...and I have completely stopped using wax rings...Fernco waxless for me
    Fernco Wax Free Toilet Seal for 4 in. Drain Pipe-FTS-4 - The Home Depot
    The only issue is making sure the toilet base is completely clean and dry before sticking the seal on...if it is clean, it WILL stick right where is touches first...if there is wax residue on the toilet, it wont stick. The last one I did the wax was hard to get off...I was able to melt it off using a small torch on low, and keep it moving, don't want to heat any one spot up too much and crack the porcelain...worked good for me. That was the first time I have ever had any issues with the Fernco waxless seals at all...never seen one fail once installed...can pull the toilet and re-use the same seal too.
     
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    Hope you had fun toying with your poop chute
     
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    That flange may have had the red stamped steel ring that rotted away and the black replacement one dropped into place. The repair kits work if there is a bit of the old ring left.

    We had a similar situation at work and a plumber had an inside pvc pipe cutter and cut a few inches below the floor and glued in a new coupling and small section of pvc to accept the new flange.
     
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    Yeah that would be my worst case fix. What I was thinking was the same as ironpony thoughts above... cut it flush and slip in the twist setup deal. Will try and report back.

    In the meantime, really have to improve my aim... (j/k we have full bath upstairs :D)
     
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    Subfloor and this will be a PVC fix for sure. I had never set a toilet myself before, so I bought the non-wax foam thing. Glad I did because troubleshooting this problem I would have wasted quite a few rings!

    Live and learn, just trying to do this right.
     
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    My .02 as a remodeling contractor that sees this kinda chit all the time, no pun intended. Your solution is the best way to deal with it. Silicone the bejesus out of the whole thing when you jam it in. The only down side is the flanges will be above flooring.... use a perfect seal to make a reliable connection. Only flange seal I will install....


    NEXT by Danco Perfect Seal Toilet Wax Ring with Bolts-10826X - The Home Depot
     
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    Big fan of the perfect seal!
     
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