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Discussion in 'Pellet Stoves, Pellet Fireplaces, Pellet Furnaces' started by zmann96, Nov 11, 2018.

  1. zmann96

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    I;ve got a New Englander 25 PDVC 55/ SHP 22E . I've been trying different setting with the air and auger speeds. I'm burning Green Team Platinum and tried Lignetics green supreme. My pot fills up before one hopper is burned ( 70lbs). I've attached a picture after 11 hours of cleaning the stove. any suggestions. the settings with thei picture are 4.6.1 pellet stove burn pot.jpg
     
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  2. mithesaint

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    Someone else can chime in if the settings are wrong, but that vast majority of the time your problem is a dirty stove. My old CPM used to do that when I didn't get it cleaned out well enough. My problem areas were behind the wall of the combustion chamber. Have you used the leaf blower on the exhaust lately? Rubber mallet on the back wall of the chamber? My guess is that you just didn't clean it well enough.
     
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    I cannot comment in that Ive no real experience with Englanders, but there are many people here with the unit and experience....Im sure they will chime in!
     
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    Well, based solely on the pic (a video would be better...hint, hint), that looks suspiciously like a lazy flame. A pot that fills up like that is usually due to a lack of air through the burn pot. Only 2 causes I know of is a dirty stove and/or exhaust piping, or a combustion blower that's on the way out.

    Your control board settings are correct for that model, but you could try increasing the low burn air to 8 or 9 to see if that helps, but the problems will remain. My advice is the same as the posters above.....the stove probably needs a deep cleaning, including the exhaust piping.

    zmann96 , is this a new stove, old stove you've owned since new, used stove, etc,???? How long have you been using it? Can you describe the exhaust set-up?........length's of pipes, # of elbows, directions pipes go (vert, horiz, angle)?

    Is the OAK installed?
     
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    zmann96 , never heard any more about the problem.....any update? Pretty cold to have an under-performing stove.
     
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    All stoves can suffer this issue if the airflow is not correct.

    ASH Baffles filled up???

    When the fire is correct it should have some light blue at the base of the flame
    A dancing flame with blue base and light yellow tips is what you want.

    Dark yellow to orange flame that is lazy and has poor to no motion is an indicator of low air flow.

    Clean the fire box
    Clean out all interior ash baffles
    Clean the interior exhaust passages
    Remove exhaust fan and inspect.

    Many exhaust fans use "OILITE" (BRONZE) bearings ... and these need to be lubricated.

    If the fan is sluggish and turns hard on a bronze bushing motor...oil is the ticket.

    There are several oils that work well.......EASY TO GET 3 in one with BLUE band at top of can.

    Ball bearing motors are USUALLY OK unless the bearings get noisy.

    The fan housing and related passages can clog over time with ash.

    A good long handled BOTTLE BRUSH or one that's a bit smaller works well for getting into the innards of the stove where the crud lurks...

    THE WA WA BRUSH

    Check the vent system and clean as needed.

    LEAF BLOWER TRICK.

    With the STOVE DOOR OPEN AND ANY VACUUM SWITCH HOSES UNHOOKED

    Suck the beast out really good.

    BE sure to unplug the power cord before opening the stoves mechanical cabinet.

    Be sure the exhaust fan is running at a good speed.

    Sluggish fan will not move much air.

    Be sure you have exhaust fan gaskets on hand (Keep several on hand)

    Once you get things clean the stove should perform fine.
     

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    If your exhaust fan looks like this piccy...

    These have ball bearings.

    Remove the 6 retaining nuts around the periphery of the motor (DO NOT REMOVE ENTIRE HOUSING)

    The white high temp gaskets are generally a one time use, and will tear apart when removing the motor...hence, keep a hand full on the shelf.

    Once you get the motor out... plug the wires back in, plug in the stove and with the motor blocked so you can watch the fan ...start the stove to see what the fan does

    SPEED is important..
    Little speed will not move much air.

    A clogged fan and housing will yield the same issue.

    PICCY'S PLEASE
     

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