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No cutting permits needed in Michigan this weekend

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  1. TurboDiesel

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    yea, not many will want to get out there in this cold...
     
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    So, we've been in this deep freeze for how long now? And they're just now "allowing" this when it's all but done.
    So disingenuous. Bureaucracy at it's best. Worst?
    Thanks for allowing the knowing and unknowing to cut nice fresh wood that won't burn well and do nothing but pollute instead of what is intended.
    I'll go back to drinking coffee now.
     
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    Supposed to warm up this weekend. At least fewer people will be out there freezing to death.
    I'd get out there to replace some of the used stash from this last week's polar vortex if I needed to.
    Free is for me.

    If they have forestry guys policing it they may be out there eating up some overtime from State of Emergency Funds. May as well give them something to do.
     
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    Did I not read somewhere that the extended cold snap will kill the EAB???
     
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    I think this is a good idea but fear few will take advantage of it. Most of the wood cutting on state land is in the northern counties and in many areas by now the snow might be too deep to be out gathering firewood.

    In addition to that, the gathering of wood must be dead and down. That rule I've never agreed with. Why must it be dead? If a tree is down, it should be available for firewood. The state won't do anything else with it. But I supposed they fear logger might take advantage...and they do.

    The years I took advantage of getting firewood off state land the permits were free. I think they stated charging $10 maybe in the 80's and now it is $20. That will probably go up again soon.
     
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    But, the wood must be dead and down so it could be used nicely for stocking up for the remainder of winter.
     
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    In the years when I was taking advantage of the program, I never saw or even heard of anyone policing it....unless someone else turned them in.
     
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    Yes. But I believe it has to be a week or so; not a few days.
     
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    AFAIK, Pa (DCNR) "allows" firewood cutting in specified areas (for a small fee), but not near timber sales were tops are left laying... and certainly NOT on the sacred Game Lands...(that were bought with taxpayer money)
     
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    Just spitballing here-
    Perhaps a correlation between the natural gas issue and people heating with wood to offset NG consumption...?

    IDK.
     
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    i don't remember there being a specific amount of days, just that -23 was the magic temp
     
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    I would think it would take a bit of time for the ones tunneled into the center of the tree to get cold enough to DIE! You green bastages, DIE!
     
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    I hopped out of the truck yesterday to wipe off a plow customer's satellite dish. The snow was up to my pants pockets, as there's no base. Usually, we'll get 2' of snow in December and some rain in January which will melt it down and re-freeze. This year, there was no snow a couple days before Christmas, and we received 30" or so in the last couple weeks with no warm-up yet. Not gonna be many folks up here cutting on state land unless it's right next to the road
     
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    Last time I went here they had to have all kinds of forestry guys here lording over everyone because there were too many a55holes cutting anything they wanted rather than what was marked and driving into the woods with their trucks even though that was verboten. Drinking, starting fights, you name it. They ruined it for everybody. What you come to expect in the State of Entitlement and everyone gets a trophy, sadly. I don't think we have cutting programs any more or they sure don't advertise like they used to.
     
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    So about knee deep on most people?:p:p:p
     
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    Backwoods Savage . I have been getting the usfs permit now for a few years and it is explained anything dead OR down. So, if there is a blow down, yes-grab it. It also limits the size of trees to be cut down to 16"DBH as I remember. I'm thinking that anything over that size has a greater chance of being a wildlife habitat tree (owls, woodpeckers, coons, whatever).

    Yes, there is a tree cop here now actively patrolling I don't think he checks on individuals but rather on the loggers operations. My buddy did get checked by him once as he was loading up some dead cherry that he hauled out. Guy says to my buddy, show me where this was cut and he did. Tree cop says OK, you're all good-you have a current permit and it was a legal tree. My buddy then said to him as he turned to walk out of the woods back to the truck..."Hey, don't go back empty handed! Grab a couple chunks!"

    Many of the roads that are forestry land here, unfortunately, aren't plowed during the winter. That limits the availability of the free wood gathering. More importantly, the ground cover of snow seriously limits wood recovery attempts also. Did that a few years back and both my son and I were over our waist deep as we stepped into a low spot! Oops!
     
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