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Mubea Ironworker

Discussion in 'Chainsaws and Power Equipment' started by JustWood, Dec 28, 2015.

  1. JustWood

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    Model HPSN 350 . 38 ton
    Could take one home locally for $2K
    Could use one but not a need.
    A company here bought all the assets of a similar competing company . They don't have a use for it.
    It looks rough. A few control switches are broken. Don't know if it works.Owner of company passed away so I can't call and ask.
    3 phase so I'll have to buy a converter . $1K + wiring .
    I wouldn't care if it needs work as I have the means to fix it .
    Looking around the net I'm finding the same unit minty fresh for $3K-$10K.
    Seems like a huge price range. I'm not afraid to put some coin into it to make it right .
    Deal or no deal? What say you guys????
     
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    You would be looking at 4-5k to maybe get it to work for something in rough shape? I think I would pass and wait for a minty fresh one for the same price.

    Gary
     
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    What exactly is this unit that ur talking about?
     
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    I haven seen one of these specific units but if it's similar to other iron-worker units like Scotchman and Piranha put out, it's a fabricators dream machine.

    They are typically used to work heavy angle iron, pipe, tubing, heavy plate, etc. Some units are a Swiss Army knife already and others you can buy attachments and reconfigure. A small 40-50 ton unit won't think twice about notching 3/8" plate, or punching a 1" hole in 3/4" material.
     
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    Yup, exactly what I figured it to be.

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    Tough call. I'd go for it if it's just a few broken switches and such that are really wrong. How much tooling comes with it? Punches, dies, etc? Are the cutting edges on the shear and the notching head good?

    As far as the 3 phase problem goes, I'd find another way to power it with a converter as an absolute last resort. Find a single phase motor for it, build a power pack, etc.
     
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  6. JustWood

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    Can't see cutting edges. It's in closed position .
    Just a couple dies and punches .
    With switching motor and controls to single phase I'd have more $ involved than just a 3 phase converter .
    I thought about taking it somewhere to plug it in and test it .
    I ended up taking a pass on it. Checked online and can get a new 30 ton American made brand single phase ready to plug and play for $3-$4K. 1/4" is about max i deal with in the fab shop. The rare occaison i need to fab heavier ill use a torch and grinder. I've got too many irons in the fire right now to mess with it even if he came down to a grand.
    One half of my brain wanted to buy it, fix it,use and flip it in 5 years. After looking around there wouldnt be much profit in it.
     
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    We got a 42 ton Uni Hydro in the shop at work, I remember when they bought it about 20 years ago and how we used to do things before we bought it, they are a real time saver and it gets alot of use in the shop
    Uni-Hydro Hydraulic Ironworkers - "A Cut Above The Rest"
     
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    that sure would be fun to have, i imagine the possibilities are endless with one of those. Ill stick with my dinky little dayton bandsaw and torches :)
     
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    I found a Edwards 55t on c/l a few years ago, $1800 & lots of tooling. I had been looking for at least 10 years for a "deal" but $4500 was the average price. That's a good chunk of change for a hobby shop. It really "steps up" the looks of your work without a bunch of time with the grinder. My drill press loves it for sure as it's now on light duty. It's a beautiful thing to punch a 1" hole in 1/2 material! (in about 3 seconds) or shear a 1/2" x 10" plate. April snow& graderblade 172.jpg April snow& graderblade 043.jpg
     
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    :drool::drool::drool:
     
  11. JustWood

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    Ran into the guy today and he said he just wants it out of the way. "$450 cash get it out this week and it's yours".
    I just got back from a craigslist hunt with spare cash when I ran into him . Bingo!:D:D:D:thumbs::rootintootin::rootintootin::rootintootin::banana::banana::banana::banana::makeitrain":makeitrain":dancer::dancer:
     
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    Wish I could like a post more than once. That's great news and a great deal.
     
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  13. JustWood

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    It may be a blessing or a curse. Around a grand for a phase inverter. Who knows what it might need. Electrical can get pricey fast.
    Coming into my busy season now so I wont get to mess with it much till next winter.
     
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    DIY phase converter?...Another 3 phase motor (found cheap at auctions)
     
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    Mine has some type of electronic phase converter from the previous owner. I've heard that they are a lot cheaper.
    Save this link for tooling. I dealt with them, good service and a bunch on the welding forum gave them high praise for good pricing. Home
    Happy day for you!!:thumbs:
    edit. link won't go through- Cleveland Steel & Tool
     
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    I've heard of that before. Don't know how practical it would be. Ill ask my electrician if it's feasible/cost effective.
    I also have some transformers and 3 phase motors kickin around from sawmill days. Have some digging to do
     
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    That requires a 5 horse motor and then would be only good for a 2-1/2 motor according to the specs.

    Gary
     
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    I've dealt with Cleveland Steel and Tool for work- Great folks:thumbs: