Ok guys I promise sooner or later I will slow down with asking all of these questions but for now I have a few more. When/if a piece of wood falls against your glass, what do you do about it? I had this happen this evening (put in a few limbs that were too long e/w so had to go diagonal). Of course it happened when temps were up. I opened the door and pushed it back with the shovel. When I closed the door the fire wanted to take off. Did I screw up here? At that point to keep the stove under control I covered the secondary inlet with a magnet until flue temp came back down. The primary air was already closed the whole way at this point. I discovered after a few minutes when i uncovered the secondary air the fire was behaving. I've got good secondary action and a steady STT of 700* What does that mean as far as the problems I've been having as seen in the thread Is it time for a damper?
I push the wood back if I catch it. I'm sure it probably has happened while asleep. No problems here so far with it. I believe it's better to keep it off the glass though. I don't have a catalyst on my stove so I can't speak for that.
I leave it alone.. its a box full of fire, of the glass couldnt handle it my insurance company wouldnt have insured my house with it. It took off because it got a large gasp of oxygen unrestricted.
Also how much cooler should your flue temp be than your stove top temp on average? I'm using a probe thermometer on double wall.
I think each stove is different. My flue is normally hotter than the stove top, and I consider this normal. Others report different results for their stoves.
I usually leave it be...unless I am pretty sure I can fix it without causing more problems...like smoking up the house, sparks flying out, making the fire go too crazy...etc
I don't like leaving any thing against the glass... I always worry it's going to create either a hot spot or a cold shadow that could break the glass.
Something Big is up with your stove Marvin as it shouldn't be a worry like your having. If I crashed for the night it sure wouldn't be much of a crash if I had to worry about a runaway train in my friggen stove. Don't worry about the wood on your glass as all it will do is make it black at the point of contact. Also shouldn't need a damper just to make the stove simmer down.
My stove is a N/S stove so a log up against the glass is pretty rare, but it has happened. I know it because there's a black spot where it burned up against the glass. The airwash usually cleans it off during the next burn cycle. IMO, the only thing to worry about being up against the glass would be it rolling out if you opened the door. Don't open the door.
No clue my man, because in all these years I never took a temp of anything... When the stove gets hot, my house warms up.... when they fire gets rolling, I cut the air down. I like to keep it things simple like that. I can sense your stressing, which is the opposite reason I have a stove... relax and enjoy!
I don't worry a bit about the glass. Mostly because it's not glass, it's ceramic. I put 30 pound pots of food on my glass top stove then apply extreme heat to just one corner...
Marvin im using two surface thermometers but right now my STT is 525 and 8” above the stove outlet it’s 200.
Don’t worry about the glass if it’s a quality stove. When you open the door you may fight a runaway round on fire.
Great question Marvin I just had this happen to me twice this week. 1st one I left against the glass till fire slowed down enough to push it back safely. It did leave a big ole black mark against the glass. The 2nd one last night I was able to open the door carefully and using the poker push it back enough to clear the glass. However this one was much more risky and something I'll probably not do again as that log was hot and ready to roll on out. If knowing that its safe laying on the glass and all its going to do is dirty the glass I'll probably never worry about it unless its very very safe to push back.
If it has fallen against the window, and nothing has broke already...then all your gonna have is that black mark that is easily cleaned off...but open the door and screw with it, you have a pretty good chance of something worse happening...and that could cause marks somewhere other than on the window...and may not be as easy to clean!
Couldn't agree more Brenn, I almost learned that the hard way. Just not knowing if it was going to hurt the glass made me mess with it, glad I know now. For a couple of seconds there I had the poker in one hand and door handle in the other and was like o CHIT......now what, that log wanted to come out!! Thanks again for your always valuable info....!
I know my stove is different but I wonder because my temps run very high. My STT consistently runs up to and above 800* and my flue temp runs up as high as 700*. If the STT is cranking I've seen my flue temp as high as 800*. Flue temp is usually about 100-150* lower than STT. As soon as we get a warm day I'm putting the proper door gasket in as well as cementing the ash plug. I dont think its pulling air through the plug after i taped it off but something is going on that I've gotta find before I do any damage.
Marvin, I have to ask if you've checked the temperature of the stove and flue with anything but the temperature gauges that are used on the stoves? Perhaps used something like this to compare temperautres?
