In loving memory of Kenis D. Keathley 6/4/81 - 3/27/22 Loving father, husband, brother, friend and firewood hoarder Rest in peace, Dexterday

Lodgepole Pine, the Fast Food of Firewood

Discussion in 'The Wood Pile' started by MrWhoopee, Oct 27, 2013.

  1. MrWhoopee

    MrWhoopee

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2013
    Messages:
    745
    Likes Received:
    2,805
    Location:
    Shingletown, CA
    If you're looking for some instant gratification, lodgepole pine (Pinus contorta) is the wood for you. Forgot to cut this year's supply until after the first snow? No problem, this stuff is well below 20% when it hits the ground. Light, straight grained and easy to split, with minimal resin and producing very little ash, this stuff is a pleasure to process and burn. At 22.3 mbtu/cord, it's not high on the list, but compared to the other choices here in the west, it has become my go-to, everyday fuel. I save the Doug Fir (Psuedotsuga menziesii) and Black Oak (Quercus kelloggii) for the long, overnight burns in the dead of winter.

    The availability of lodgepole is also excellent. There are large stands on nearby federal lands, permits cost $10/cord, 10 cord maximum. Walk into a stand that hasn't already been cut, easily 10-15% will be standing dead with the thin bark already sloughing off. It's hard to imagine that these things can grow fast enough to replace the die-off (this isn't due to bark-beetle or needle-miner, just natural), but they do. Almost seems like God planned it that way to keep us warm.

    The only downside is that the wood is so dry and absorbent that it must be top covered. I'll live with that.
     
  2. Well Seasoned

    Well Seasoned Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2013
    Messages:
    18,035
    Likes Received:
    83,751
    Location:
    N.H. WMNF
    Sounds like some really good stuff.
     
    Cash Larue likes this.
  3. savemoney

    savemoney

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2013
    Messages:
    13,417
    Likes Received:
    68,706
    Location:
    Chelsea Maine
    I don't know of any wood like that around here. Sounds good.
     
  4. thistle

    thistle

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2013
    Messages:
    2,730
    Likes Received:
    9,713
    Location:
    Polk/Guthrie Counties,IA
    Very nice.

    I got 2 loads of random sized White Pine from my tree service contact in mid February.Cut,split & stacked all of the smaller rounds (8 to 14",anything bigger up to 28" I milled several,the remaining 7 pieces are still waiting) within a couple days.Its on south side of shed,near south property fence,has minimum 6 hours daily sun exposure.


    Sat there all through our very dry hot summer.None that I checked is over 18% now,burned a couple chunks last Tuesday,was very impressed.Cant wait for it to cool off again so I can burn more.Temps 55-60 for next few days so no fires until then unfortunately.
     
    Backwoods Savage and savemoney like this.
  5. StihlHead

    StihlHead

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2013
    Messages:
    715
    Likes Received:
    1,286
    Location:
    The wild west
    White pine has far les heat than Lodgepole though. I have a lot of lodgepole growing on my property. There are several different types, including shore pines and several different inland varieties (I have shore and south inland type here). No real lodgepole stands around here though, as its all commercial Doug fir. We have the same forest cutting permits, but no areas here in the West Cascades in north Oregon have been open lately. I can go to the coast and get all the wood I want by permit, but that is a hike (60 miles) and a lot in gas money. Its all Doug fir though...
     
    Lumber-Jack likes this.
  6. Lumber-Jack

    Lumber-Jack

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2013
    Messages:
    403
    Likes Received:
    1,458

    Great comparison, except lodgepole doesn't plug up your chimney the way fast food plugs up your arteries.
    I've made a few posts about the virtues of Lodgepole pine a few times myself. I've come to the realization that it's the most reliable, easiest to access and process firewood, in my area. In fact I've quite cutting douglas fir, I've never really noticed or felt that the douglas fir burned any better the lodgepole, in fact this BTU chart I found rates it slightly higher in BTUs then douglas fir.
     
    MrWhoopee likes this.
  7. StihlHead

    StihlHead

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2013
    Messages:
    715
    Likes Received:
    1,286
    Location:
    The wild west
    I have yet to find two BTU charts that agree on anything, and few agree with my experiences burning different species of wood. I would put DF above LP, but that is West of the Cascades and Sierras DF and LP. Southern and eastern DF tends to have less BTU than it does here. Also fetches a lower pond price there than here. Also my shore pines here are denser than the larger inland lodgepole species that I have growing here, but they are technically just a different variety of the same species (surprised me when I found that out).
     
    Last edited: Oct 27, 2013
  8. BrianK

    BrianK

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2013
    Messages:
    3,072
    Likes Received:
    10,929
    Location:
    West central PA
  9. Lumber-Jack

    Lumber-Jack

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2013
    Messages:
    403
    Likes Received:
    1,458
    Nice video Brian, but you need a do one again with a clock in there somewhere, and a little closer, higher resolution version where we can watch the thermometer.
    What did you use to capture the video?
     
    papadave likes this.
  10. papadave

    papadave

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2013
    Messages:
    18,181
    Likes Received:
    82,468
    Location:
    Right where I want to be.
    Brian, are you still using "Timelapse"?
     
  11. BrianK

    BrianK

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2013
    Messages:
    3,072
    Likes Received:
    10,929
    Location:
    West central PA
    That time lapse is from last winter. I was using an iPhone 4s with the TimeLapse app from xyster.net.

    I subsequently figured out how to capture higher resolution time lapse video but my memory on this iPhone is too low for high res time lapse. I haven't yet found a heat resistant clock to add to the time lapse image.
     
  12. My IS heats my home

    My IS heats my home

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2013
    Messages:
    7,394
    Likes Received:
    17,654
    Location:
    Albany, NH
    Me neither, and I'm just below you. We are in hardwood central :)
     
  13. gmule

    gmule

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2013
    Messages:
    535
    Likes Received:
    2,231
    Location:
    Conifer Colorado
    As a person that lives in a lodgepole forest I couldn't agree more.

    [​IMG]

    All lodgpole
     
    basod and Backwoods Savage like this.
  14. basod

    basod

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2013
    Messages:
    5,042
    Likes Received:
    20,776
    Location:
    Mount Cheaha AL
    We were watching Mountain Men a few weeks ago and they were out cutting small Lodge Poll pine for a Teepee.
    Apparently that's where the name comes from