Little bit of maple

My brother ended up grabbing some maple from somebody on FB. Looks like 2 different tree I’m not sure which kinda maples they are any ideas are appreciated. The first pic is what the homeowner said was sugar maple but I’m not sure as my maple ID isn’t too good. Second pic I believe is either silver or red maple because they are everywhere around here. But yes please try to let me know what they are!

 

Here’s a split from the “sugar maple”

 

This is definitely red maple, which gets a darker color core when in the early stages of rot in the heartwood.

 

What does a split or log of sugar maple look like? As far as I’m aware of I’ve had a bunch of the maples besides sugar maple and am not sure how to id the wood

 

Sugar maple bark is rough compared to red/silver. Here’s a couple I tapped for sap this past winter:

The wood itself is light in color, but sometimes the core is slightly darker:

 

Just found this score got some decent wood in it looks like maple and some mulberry

 

Maple??? Or what

 

Bark looks like Ash

 

I thought so and I remembered that buZZsaw BRAD
Said only ash and something else has a center pith
But homeowner said maple so I just wanted to fact check lol

 

X2 on ash. Hollow center pith confirms. I didn't realize Detroit still had any ash trees left, being ground zero for EAB

 

I see some for sale sometime but I’m not sure if it’s really ash. As far as me this is only the second time I’ve gotten it and both were smaller stuff. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a huge ash tree

 

Do you think that's green ash?

 

Could be. Hard to tell at that size. If I saw where it was growing (neighborhood tree, forest, dry, wetland etc.) I'd be more confident. The rough bark has me leaning towards green ash.

 

Was growing in somebodies yard in the burbs

 

When you cut it, split from the fresh cut end and it should split easier. Seems checked ends are harder to split from IME.

 

Green ash was historically planted more as a landscape tree than white ash was. The seed that sprouted that probably came from a dying yard tree 20 years ago, when there were a lot more living mature specimens around. That's my best uneducated guess anyway

 

X2. Some good sized growth rings on that log.

I've noticed suckers growing from old white ash stumps here that are s few inches in diameter and are nice and healthy.