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John Deere 4100

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  1. Horkn

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    So my cutting buddy is being offered a 4100 with FEL, forks, rear 3pt rack and a 60" mowing deck.
    It has a yanmar 1 liter 3 cylinder.
    What's the weight rating on the FEL? Looks like it can handle a 4 or 5 ft brush hog too.

    Thoughts?

    He thinks the tractor can't haul/ load the walnut logs he cuts for live edge lumber. Probably 16-20" max diameter and, 8-10' long.

    If he buys this, I'm sure I'd get to use it a bit as well
     
  2. huskihl

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    It’s not going to handle logs real well. 20 horse motor and the loader has a lift rating of about 1500 pounds. It’s more of a lawnmower that could also be purchased with a loader, as opposed to something in the 30+ hp range that was actually designed with a loader in mind
     
  3. Ohio

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    I have a deere 4100.
    Obligatory tractor data link:
    TractorData.com John Deere 4100 tractor information

    It's a decent small tractor I have over 2000 hours on it. It spent the first 15 years pulling hay wagons pulling a manure spreader and scraping dry lots for horses.

    I have a 72 inch finish mower that came with it and it is way to much. I am looking at a 48 inch mower for it. It is hard to keep the rpm high enough to run the pto, it works but it has to inch along.

    It does not lift that much I really don't push it. I'd go through tractor data to get the specs.

    I will say it is a miser for fuel. I can run it for a couple hours at full rpm and only use a gallon or so of diesel.

    I mostly use it for dragging logs, and removing snow from the driveway. Ill also cut up deer using the loader. It definitely does have its limitations but for me it beats having a payment or dealing with a more modern machine with emissions bs.

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  4. Cold Trigger Finger

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    Sure beats a shovel and a wheelbarrow !
    It kinda depends on the price ! If it's too good a deal to pass up. Don't .
     
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    A guy at my work has a sub compact 25 horse New Holland. He has done Lots of work with it. It does seem small to look at. And it takes some time to do a bigger job. But it gets the job done
     
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    That's a good little tractor & I'd buy if the price was right, but it's very unlikely it'll handle an 8' X 16" logs. Maybe dryish Pine that size, but not Walnut or Oak. I think you saw my 39HP TYM working at the GTG this spring? That's about minimum size to handle saw logs well imo.
     
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    On my post above saying that it was only 20 horse, and a lawnmower, I surely didn’t mean to pizz anyone off. It wasn’t my intention. I bet they’re a great tractor that will run nearly forever doing what they were intended to do. Like the folks that posted after me, small 3 pt stuff, light bucket work, and a fantastic mower. But handling heavy weight on the loader isn’t what they were intended for. But Adam’s post above is what I was talking about. It’s a different physical size tractor with bigger parts in the front end that will do a better job of carrying weight
     
  8. Screwloose

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    I have to admit that I was shocked when I read huskihl response. I don't really follow deeres numbering system but I assumed that a 4000 series would be stronger and larger than my 3000 series. That said my stick shift yandeer is a dependable rock solid little beast. For sure that tractor is to small for your buddies needs. What condition and price? Still could be handy as heck to have around.
     
  9. Horkn

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    8500, in great condition. Fel, forks, 60" mow deck and three point back rack.

    He's seriously considering buying it. I know he'd get a lot of use it of it. Throw a 4 ft brush hog on it and he'll be set. The 24 acres he has at his dad's lot one house over has a lot of trails that need to be recut and maintained. He doesn't do much big log work. I don't know why he's poo pooing it because of that when that's a once in a great while thing, and most of the live edge logs he deals with are 4-6' long.
     
  10. MasterMech

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    This was the second and final round where all deere compacts were 4xxx numbers. 4100 was a small frame equivalent to todays smaller 2 Series tractors. 4200 would have been a 3e series or perhaps one of the larger 2 Series. 4300/4400 were equivalent to the 3R series. 4500/4600/4700 were ancestors to the 4Rs.

    Your 3000 series (3x20? I liked those...) is likely related to the 4300/4310/4400,4410 machines. There were some economy 3000 series that have more obscure family trees.
     
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    What a mess.
    Either way if it is a all gear drive and it says yanmar agricultural works Osaka Japan on the tag it should be pretty bullet proof. The loader will be a true frame mounted one so you won't snap the tractor in two.
     
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    That right there. Frame mounted loader is what I'm looking at when I get a tractor.
    Cast iron tractors make me nervous in the cold !
     
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    For that money I'd grab that tractor. It will do all those chores well minus the big logs.
     
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    I recommend you look closely at the oil, coolant tank and look in the radiator. People don't realize the importance of keeping the radiator and screen clean. The little diesels can easily ruin their heads when they overheat. A belly mower in dry grass and and it can happen quickly.
     
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    It's hydro with high and low speed settings. 921 hours on it. Bought new by his boss.
     
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    Seems like a good deal if it suits his needs!
     
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    Honestly not familiar with the hydro ones. What year is it ?
     
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    They were pretty simple/bulletproof. Very, very nice on small model like that with a loader.

    The weak point of any compact is going to be the front axle pivot and hubs. Ballast the snot out of it on the 3pt, and ixnay on shimming the relief valve, you will not break the tractor.
     
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    This answer ^^^^!!
    Exactly! I have a deere I bought new in 2008.
    I'm at book psi. and I'm over the relief a lot. Maximum counterweight. DO NOT pick up heavy stuff on just one side of the loader !! Using a single side hook, forked loads off center ect. will twist the loader frame. The 2 cylinders basically share the load and are connected by the single tube welded between the arms. Load one side and the other side tries to share the work through the tube.
     
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