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Is it legal to transport firewood from CT into MA

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  1. sirbuildalot

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    I know you cannot bring firewood out of MA due to beetles. Is it ok to bring it into MA from CT though?
     
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    I'd bet not.
    Chech out your Dept of Ag website.
    Key words; moving firewood
     
  3. Warner

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    Definitely not.
     
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    Lots of states have this rule. Some are even more strict to not move it any more than 50 miles or so with risks that pests that exist in an area aren’t prevalent in another. Not worth the move if something happened.
     
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    You need a permit to move firewood anywhere in CT. You can issue one to yourself within the state, but from over state line you have to have one issued by their AG dept.
     
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    What about logging operations/trucks?
     
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    No


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    Bugs don't care if they live in a 16" length of firewood or a 100" length of log rolling down the highway on the back of some logging truck.
     
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    Or a crevice on a car during the period of time of year they are mobile
     
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    Not a good idea with the EAB and even the spotted lanternfly
     
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  12. JustWood

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    Here they stopped enforcement on local firewood guys once all the surrounding counties were quarantined . It only lasted about a year. They were still after the campers coming in from out of state for quite awhile .
    I live at the intersection of 3 counties in 2 different states . I couldn’t haul ANY species of wood out of my mill 1/2 mile over a line BUT they let me haul wood to the other end of my county 45 miles away. I asked the USDA agent how that made any sense and his only response was “ I’ll be watching you”
     
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    I may be opening a can of worms here but, hasn't it already been admitted by other states that quarantines have not worked? They only slow the spread and do nothing to prevent the spread.

    Just wondering if anyone else had heard/read that.
     
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  14. JustWood

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    I haven’t heard that but I believe it.
    I’ve heard winds in many different cases have been the cause of the spread of many bugs and molds.
    Our quarantine happened in 08 and it took about 9-10 years to get here. It’s on with a vengeance now.
     
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    The quarantine in Worcester county MA seems to have worked for Asian Longhorn Beetle.. the quarantine allowed them to cut and chip the affected trees and treat potential hosts before the beetle could rapidly spread. The theory behind not allowing the movement of firewood is that a lot of what people cut for firewood is diseased or recently dead trees... many pests stay within the trees that they infect up to two years so moving those logs would move the pests... theoretically, sawlogs are taken from live healthy trees so they are not diseased or infested and as such have much less potential to spread pests or disease... the concern is over pests that affect live, healthy trees and not those that invest trees that have already died...

    10 years after Asian longhorned beetle infestation, Worcester's urban forest blooms with diversity
     
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    And you’d be right. I was only saying the “do not move wood” program says to not move wood as those could enforce it, I hardly see that happening unless it becomes an absolute necessity to that program. Another pine beetle incident.
    But then that doesn’t have much validity to it as they don’t seem to do a lot to contain it. That being said if they tell us as people to not move it, it’s only the ones who know make that choice and the ones who don’t, well either the problem just exists but the extent of any spread is hard to convey.
     
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    You don’t haul firewood logs from, say CT to VT, but tomorrow night the interstate will be packed with people rushing up for the weekend, and I’d bet a lot of money that despite all the regs and education there will be several cords of wood spread across a lot of trucks/SUVs flowing up here, too. Obviously we won’t stop it (the EAB), but every year of delay is another year’s growth on my sawlogs and another year of enjoying these trees.
     
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    I get the quarantines and observe them also.

    But, at the same time all this is going on, truckload after truckload is heading out from Michigan to Minnesota numerous times per day. And across multi counties within any given state.

    It just seems kind of futile that the logging trucks are still allowed to move wood; just not individuals.....
     
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    I could walk through my backyard and end up in NH and have passed up on some nice roadside scores just because they were over the state line. I don't think any bug would hesitate to cross the line so I'm not doing it to stop the spread of anything, I just don't need the hassle or any legal problems that could result.
     
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    Don’t take this as gospel but Ct for one has relaxed the rules a bit. At one time you couldn’t move over county lines. Now you can.
     
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