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Hough's s27xe?

Discussion in 'Modern EPA Stoves and Fireplaces' started by bang, Nov 10, 2018.

  1. bang

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    Anyone have any experience with one of these? ,I have a chance to pick one up cheap for an upgrade in my shop. My old Earth stove keeps it warm but uses a lot of wood.
     
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    Can you post a link to that stove? Sounds like a Century product. I ran a Century S244E for 2 years. It pounded out heat but did not have very long burn times. The primary air control was not very fine tuned! The factory set secondary air supply was to much in my opinion. I reduced the secondary air myself. Sorry EPA. I kept the stove for my garage. The old Earth stoves are nifty. Are you still using the thermostatic primary air control? If that model has one?
     
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    I did read that Haugh's bought out by Century. I passed on the stove anyway so it's a mute point now.
    I'm not sure what you mean by "thermostatic primary" but it if you are referring to the turn knob that controls the shutter then yes that's what I use to control air. There are 2 ports in the back that allow air to enter the stove thru tubes near the top but I closed them and get longer burn times. I do use a damper and get about 8 hours with a full load of "all nighters" which is about all you can expect from an old school stove. I usually have to restart the fire each morning although the shop is fairly warm. I want to get a stove that will have enough hot coals after 10 or so hours that will fire up more easily.
     
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    I think the old Earth Stove's have a bimetallic spring operated air intake assembly for allowing metered primary air intake? The one I am familiar with does. Unless I am dreaming! Guessing you will be impressed with a newer stove.

    Take a peek at the Drolet HT2000. Its a heating machine that provides your required burn time. At least the one I helped install and figure out. The price is right as well. Or the Englander NC30. Similar design/performance according to many. Guessing you have already researched one or both? Good luck.
     
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    I ended up buying the stove and it's a s273e (not s27xe). The guy made e an offer I couldn't refuse. I got it going this evening so I'll have a good idea in the morning if it's any better than the Earth Stove. The stove is a little rough in appearance cosmetically but solidly operational.
     
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    Soooo. How was the initial run?
     
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    I wasn't satisfied with the stove overnight but probably my fault. I went in for the night soon after firing it up and didnt load it properly. It has a small box and using smaller splits seems to do better. I've got it burning well now with full air getting a good secondary burn. 20181122_113657.jpg
     
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    I had to throttle mine back to zero to get the best burn times. I even played with restricting the factory set secondary air supply to slow it down. That worked well. It was a very easy breathing stove. Depends a lot on your draft I suppose.
     
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    bang that stove looks exactly like our old stove.

    It wouldn't have much of anything left in the morning, but heated our place for many years.

    Backplate said Warnock Hersey.

    Pic of backplate.
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    Secondaries never worked right in ours, we got it second (or third) hand.

    Not sure if I can rework it, or if I'll bother.


    Hope the stove gives ya some good heat.
    :yes:
     
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    old-vs-new.JPG
    Pic of the old stove compared to the new.
     
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    Nice new stove. I read that Haughs was bought by Century and Jacuzzi bought Century. My "new" stove was mfg in 1997 and has Haughs on the plate where yours has Jacuzzi and looks like 2004 for mfg date. The baffles in mine are in vgc and I had a fine secondary burn going but it didnt last long. Its putting out good heat with less wood so I'm fairly certain it's an improvement over the Earth stove.
     
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    That's a very good thing.
    :thumbs:

    I think ours was run pretty rough before we got it.

    But it worked.
     
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    If it keeps the cats warm overnight and there's enough coals to restart in the mornings I'll be satisfied.
     
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    I loaded the stove late the last 2 nights and had sufficient coals yesterday and this morning to restart easily. I need to cut longer and split smaller to maximize the small fire box. I will also round up smaller rounds for overnight.