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Ethics??

Discussion in 'The Wood Pile' started by Reloader, Jun 25, 2020.

  1. Reloader

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    I participate in different firewood and chainsaw sites as well as some firearm sites.
    What I find interesting is for the most part it seems to be in bad form to sell wood cutting equipment with a known Issue without at least letting the buyer know about the issue.
    With firearms it seems to be buyer beware and often the solution to a firearm or accessory with a problem is to sell it to some unsuspecting buyer.
    Maybe wood smoke causes honesty where gunpowder smoke doesn’t.
    I’ve bought dozens of saws sight unseen and have never had one delivered to me that had any issues that I wasn’t made aware of beforehand.


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  2. Woodsnwoods

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    I do not sell anything without disclosing issues. At least known issues.
     
  3. Backwoods Savage

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    It doesn't matter what you are selling; I think it is just right to let the buyer know of any issues. Sadly, that does not seem to be the prevailing thought with most folks. For example buying something from Craigslist or buying a vehicle. Buyer beware is the way to go but that is really sad. However, I will not let that crap change my ways. My motto has been to do the thing that is right because it is the right thing to do.
     
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  4. bushpilot

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    I always disclose any hidden or substantial defects. When I sell a car, if it has bad brakes or the AC doesn't work, I tell you. If the problem is cosmetic, seeing it is your problem.

    Selling online, I intentionally photograph defects for the buyer and disclose in the text as well.
     
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    Well stated. I like to think/act like I was selling to my daughter, and I hope that others will treat my daughter in the same way.
     
  6. Screwloose

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    Put the cards on the table same as you would want it for yourself.
     
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  7. jo191145

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    I’ve bought a ton of stuff from firearm forums and never had a bad experience. Quite often the seller will ship on the same day you put a check in the mail. Now that’s trust.
    What kind of riff raff you hanging around :)
     
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    Sold a chain saw on CL yesterday...first time selling a saw for me. I provided good pictures with good description. Guy came to PU and i told him the history albeit minor. I always try to be up front.
    Honesty is the best policy IMO!
     
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  9. brenndatomu

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    Firearms attract all kinds of people, certainly plenty of riffraff...but firewood is too much work for many riffraff types...other than stealing it maybe...my 2 cents on the matter...
     
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    I was just going to type the same message. Cutting wood is hard work. I tend to trust people who know the value of hard work more than I trust others.
     
  11. bushpilot

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    I have an airplane rebuild project going. There is a guy in CA that is known for his collection of parts for this model airplane. He is also known for his integrity - the part will be as-described when you receive it. Furthermore, the trust goes both ways, he ships the part to you first, and after you receive it, you are asked to either mail a check or ship it back to him. My last purchase from him was $1800, and he did it just this way, and I am told he does the same internationally as well.

    In the long run, it is good business.
     
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    When I bought my first Kuuma Vaporfire furnace (used, private sale) I needed some parts and called the manufacturer for prices...had a nice conversation with them and said that I would let them know on the order. I later emailed them the order and they responded that they would get it put together for me...couple days goes by and they email me back saying the order was shipped, could I please call them to arrange payment at my earliest convenience. I was surprised that a manufacturer that I had no relationship with, other than a nice phone call, would send out a couple hundred dollars worth of product without previous payment! They have done the same for me several times since too. Top notch folks.
    Vapor Fire 100 - High Efficiency Wood Gasification Furnace - Kuuma
     
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    My $0.02 Just do the right thing, I believe in Karma
     
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    I’m a little selfish and want what’s best for me in the long run. I’m honest in my dealings and have offered to buy the item back if they aren’t happy. I have no desire to deal with people who are mad because of something I did or didn’t do. I try to keep things simple!
     
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    Here I thought we had a new wood to id. :smoke:
     
  16. tamarack

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    I'm the same. If I sell something I disclose the known issues. I really despise people who try to sell junk at exorbitant prices, and also equally despise people who answer a Craigslist or other advertisement and tell you they are coming to look at your item and do a no call/no show deal. Most of the time when I sell something I just try to avoid craigslist/ Facebook and sell it to a friend of a friend or meebe a coworker.