Ethanol free fuel

I always wanted to try it for my chainsaw ,but this is insane

 

I have a few buddies that run it in thier ope. They like it.

 

Yup, that's an insane price to pay for it though. It goes locally here for about $0.50 more per gallon than regular. Check out this site to find places near you: Ethanol-free gas stations in the U.S. and Canada

 

I can buy the VP fuel for about 60 per 5 gallons. I can't get ethanol free anywhere close to me.

 

X2 that's how I found it near me

 

I think ....The price more or less reflects that it's "VP" wich is a racing fuel brand but the add states its only 94 octane lol. Silly ad.

 

Esso and Shell premium E-free is about $1.20 Canadian per liter here. Aspen 2 premix is about $25 per 5 liter jug at the local John Deere. That VP fuel plus a bottle of Stihl orange cap 2 cycle oil would cost me at least $28 Canadian for 5 liters.
Aspen 2

 

I forgot taxes. Esso and Shell pump gas is tax in(cluded). Aspen and VP would have 5% GST (Mulrony's Gouge and Screw Tax) plus Provincial Sales Tax, 5% here in Sask. So about $27.50 for Aspen and almost $31.00 for VP.

 

Just be aware that it doesn't always mean that there's no ethanol in the gas at those stations.

The only way to know is to test for ethanol.

Or you could run e10 as all modern saws are designed to run it.

 

That's what I do..cheapest pump 87 I can find in all my two strokes with the exception of the sleds they get 89+ octane e10 pump legend oil.

 

Odd that we pay MORE to have less stuff (energy) in our fuel...shouldn't it be the other way around?

 

The ethanol raises octane so they can use less expensive chemicals to oxygenate and octane rate their fuel.
Im willing to bet Parts per million drops quite a bit with e10 as well.

So no.

 

Uh, yeah...BTU's. We here at FHC can all surely understand that more BTUs is mo betta.

GGE calculated for gasoline in US gallons at 114000 BTU per gallon,
or 7594 kilocalories per litre[2]
Fuel: liquid, US gallons GGE GGE % BTU/gal kWh/gal HP-hr/gal kcal/litre
Gasoline (base)[3] 1.0000 100.00% 114,000 33.41 44.79 7594.0
Gasoline (conventional, summer)[3] 0.9960 100.40% 114,500 33.56 44.99 7624.5
Gasoline (conventional, winter)[3] 1.0130 98.72% 112,500 32.97 44.20 7496.5
Gasoline (reformulated gasoline, E10 - ethanol)[3] 1.0190 98.14% 111,836 32.78 43.94 7452.4
Gasoline (reformulated gasoline, ETBE)[3] 1.0190 98.14% 111,811 32.77 43.93 7452.4
Gasoline (reformulated gasoline, MTBE)[3] 1.0200 98.04% 111,745 32.75 43.90 7445.1
Gasoline (10% MTBE)[4] 1.0200 98.04% 112,000 32.83 44.00 7445.1
Gasoline (regular unleaded)[5] 1.0000 100.00% 114,100 33.44 44.83 7594.0

You are paying more for less BTU content. Octane is related to burn rate. Energy is energy and Ethanol has less than pure gasoline.

Here's an interesting read:
It's Final -- Corn Ethanol Is Of No Use

"....grain required to fill a 25 gallon tank would feed 1 person for a year...."

And I'll again site all the roundup and nitrogen being applied to grow it being very unnecessary and polluting our water.

 

I'm not getting into a fuel debate, I'm well aware of the energy content of different fuel.
I've used ethanol and methanol for the last decade on the road and track before it was "cool".
It's an awesome race fuel especially for forced induction.


So now you agree you are paying more for more BTUs? When buying non ethanol gas? Or are you now suggesting you are paying more for e10?

I'm not for ethanol subsidies, but it's not a bad fuel like most people think.

The ethanol is subsidized if you buy it or not.
For now, You have a choice to buy either.

It's like saying the social security system is broken and a scam, but everyone cashes their checks come retirement time.

 

They Will CAsh Them Til What Is Is 2034 When They Revised Down THE Date That It Will Run Out Of money. That's the point where the output will be larger than the input I guess?

 

They will just raise the pay in to sustain it, or worse.
I wish I could keep my cash and save spend or invest it myself.

 

I think that's what many that are not to SS age wish to do! But the government don't think that most of us are compote enough to do that. Sadly they are right for about half the population. Best solution would be for the government to allow you choices for your own portfolio with a default 4% fund. But with the choices. Your money is yours and doesn't pay others. But that's not the way it's set up my money pays my parents SS, our kids pay ours. It's the ultimate ponzi scheme and when the birth rate drops off there will be short falls.

 

Finally, someone else that understands it as I do.



Quite simply ethanol fuel actually makes more power, but doesn't get as good of mpg.

Motor trend did a great comparison on a flex fuel 5.3 v8 gm full size truck that they had for a long term year long test. They filled out with e10, did a few 1/4 mile runs, then did the same 1/4 mile tests on e85. It was faster and quicker on e85 than e10. But the mpg test results with very sophisticated mpg test equipment showed the e85 got a noticeable difference in lower mpg than the e10.

 

Corn is not the best source of getting ethanol. But for now it's the easiest.

 

Also the vehicle has to be set up for it as well.

I'm not as into performance and stuff as you but I don't quite think my 1980 k10 chevy will be faster on e85 as it sits right now?

Yes I do know it will eat the hoses and such. I don't put it into it...just bringing up what if.