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Engine overheat help

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  1. Well Seasoned

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    My 09 Subaru outback suddenly overheated along with the heater not working in the car. I immediately thought thermostat, so i replaced that along with burping the system. It seemed this helped, but when i test drive it, while going down a hill, the heater stopped working again until i turned around and went back up the hill. I drive a little further, then the engine overheated again with my heater not working.

    I feel i burped the system enough. There's a chance the thermostat was crap out of the box and i should have tested it before i installed it, but i didn't.

    Going with the cheapest things first, I'll replace the radiator cap next, although it looks good, you never know. Another thing i can think of (and hopefully it's not) is the head gasket, but I'm not seeing any mayonnaise looking film on the radiator cap,the overflow tank or engine oil dipstick. Maybe a bad water pump.......????

    Any mechanics have any thoughts? Thanks!
     
  2. Horkn

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    How's the crankcase oil looking?
     
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    Water pump or the pulley on serpentine belt..
    how many miles and when was major service done?
     
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    Quickest way to rule out head gasket.. is there oil in antifreeze
     
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    Looks good, no seperating fluids as far as i can tell.

    Belt is turning, so unless the shaft broke inside, I'd figure the pump is turning......
    Major service as in timing belt and water pump, not yet

    Like i mentioned in the first post, not seeing that mayonaise junk on any caps.....
     
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    It can go the other way too though. Antifreeze in the crankcase. Depends where the head gasket fails. Hopefully it's"just" a water pump or less. Any puddles anywhere?
     
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    I don't own, or haven't owned a Subaru, but that's pretty normal time for a water pump to be replaced
     
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    Not seeing any different fluids in the oil, normal exhaust for the outside temps, no extra "fog" coming from the exhaust
     
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    Get a long handle screw driver and listen too water pump with engine at idle.. just because belts moving if impeller on inside gone not moving enough fluid through heater core
     
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    Ugh. Subaru's are pretty famous for blown head gaskets.
     
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    Yes, both kick on, running smooth, when they should......
     
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    Yeah but how is they don’t replace timing belt, water pump, pulleys and belt

    Horkn they are 22% of vehicles on road in my state so you get to know them
     
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    Ill give that a listen tomorrow.....,
     
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    I've had head gaskets where all it will do is leak just enough combustion pressure to over- pressurize the cooling system and push coolant out
    With newer multi layer steel gadkets they seem to no always act like the old fiber ones
     
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    I know, but Im not seeing any evidence of that, but could be
    Im just trying to go cheapest fix first... If i have that work done, ill have them do all that
     
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    I think my cummins is doing that.
    Lots of gurgling when i shut it off.
    Intermittent heat last week. Still full of water.
     
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    I wont bother with a head gasket. Can only imagine the cost and that probably wouldnt be worth it
     
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    Check that radiator cap first, oe only