In loving memory of Kenis D. Keathley 6/4/81 - 3/27/22 Loving father, husband, brother, friend and firewood hoarder Rest in peace, Dexterday

Drolet 1800i Insert install

Discussion in 'Modern EPA Stoves and Fireplaces' started by Buck, Mar 8, 2022.

  1. Buck

    Buck

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2021
    Messages:
    19
    Likes Received:
    83
    Location:
    Victoria, BC
    The Drolet 1800i was installed this weekend

    Andrew did the installation and I assisted him, I learned a lot


    It has been waiting patiently in the carport

    PXL_20220216_201308346.jpg


    It's quite heavy, 392lbs according to the website

    PXL_20220305_183742727.jpg


    Getting it up the stairs into the house was hard, Andrew pulled and I pushed.
    All those years playing rugby finally payed off

    PXL_20220305_191832134.jpg


    Cutting the damper to make room for the liner

    PXL_20220305_191913549.jpg


    PXL_20220307_013445187.jpg


    It's in

    PXL_20220306_004942729.jpg


    New and clean inside

    PXL_20220306_005015198.jpg


    The secondaries I've read about so much

    PXL_20220306_005029544.jpg


    The cap and flashing

    PXL_20220306_005715946.jpg


    It was a nice day to be on the roof

    PXL_20220306_005736016.jpg


    Testing it, lighting the first small fire

    PXL_20220306_013223926.jpg


    Checking the chimney, very lucky having the smoke, a vapor trail and the moon in the pic

    PXL_20220306_015948571.jpg


    It was worth it. It did smell of burning paint, but it wasn't too bad.
    The second fire didn't smell, I was able to get the living room up to 75F (24C) and the rest of the floor to 71f (22C)

    PXL_20220306_025306777.jpg
     
    Last edited: Mar 8, 2022
  2. Rich L

    Rich L

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2019
    Messages:
    965
    Likes Received:
    3,892
    Location:
    Eastern Mass.
    What's the size of the fire box ?
     
  3. yooperdave

    yooperdave

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2014
    Messages:
    33,505
    Likes Received:
    205,893
    Location:
    Michigan's U.P.
  4. RGrant

    RGrant

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2019
    Messages:
    773
    Likes Received:
    4,277
    Location:
    Connecticut
    Is that the old damper plate that was removed?
     
  5. Buck

    Buck

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2021
    Messages:
    19
    Likes Received:
    83
    Location:
    Victoria, BC
    2.4 ft

    Drolet 1880i Specifications 1.jpg

    Drolet 1880i Specifications 2.jpg
     
    Ohio and Rich L like this.
  6. Buck

    Buck

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2021
    Messages:
    19
    Likes Received:
    83
    Location:
    Victoria, BC
    Yes, he had to cut it away to make room for the liner
     
    Ohio likes this.
  7. brenndatomu

    brenndatomu

    Joined:
    May 29, 2015
    Messages:
    22,395
    Likes Received:
    142,241
    Location:
    NE Ohio
    Congrats on the new install!
    Looking at the pic of the damper that was cut out...that looks strange to me...was this a masonry fireplace or a prefab unit?
     
  8. Buck

    Buck

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2021
    Messages:
    19
    Likes Received:
    83
    Location:
    Victoria, BC
    It was a masonry fireplace with a steel liner

    He had to cut out the damper and a part of the angled "ledge" at the back

    A lot of dust on it came down with the "ledge"

    PXL_20220303_014143498.jpg
     
  9. brenndatomu

    brenndatomu

    Joined:
    May 29, 2015
    Messages:
    22,395
    Likes Received:
    142,241
    Location:
    NE Ohio
    Good...because putting a stove into the shell of a prefab unit inside a stick built "fake" fireplace is something that your insurance company could use to get out of paying if something stove/chimney related ever happened.
     
  10. Buck

    Buck

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2021
    Messages:
    19
    Likes Received:
    83
    Location:
    Victoria, BC
    I saw the secondaries burn properly for the first time last night

    With the air closed down completely the secondaries started, it's counterintuitive I thought more air would be better but it wasn't

    It was amazing to see the flames hanging and dancing in the air an inch above the wood

    Here's a clip of it

     
  11. brenndatomu

    brenndatomu

    Joined:
    May 29, 2015
    Messages:
    22,395
    Likes Received:
    142,241
    Location:
    NE Ohio
    When you close the air control lever down that shifts the air coming into the firebox from (just for example) a 50/50 mixture of primary and secondary air to 10/90 (again, just an example, not actual known numbers)
     
  12. Buck

    Buck

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2021
    Messages:
    19
    Likes Received:
    83
    Location:
    Victoria, BC
    I don't think you can shut air down completely, when we installed it I saw there was about a 3/8" hole in air control plate

    It might be because it's EPA 2020 compliant
     
    brenndatomu likes this.
  13. brenndatomu

    brenndatomu

    Joined:
    May 29, 2015
    Messages:
    22,395
    Likes Received:
    142,241
    Location:
    NE Ohio
    Well, in reality you can't, but I was referring to shut down as far as the lever will go.
     
  14. Warner

    Warner

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2017
    Messages:
    7,019
    Likes Received:
    44,842
    Location:
    New Hampshire
    You can by putting a magnet over the hole that the plate don’t cover…:whistle:
     
    brenndatomu likes this.
  15. brenndatomu

    brenndatomu

    Joined:
    May 29, 2015
    Messages:
    22,395
    Likes Received:
    142,241
    Location:
    NE Ohio
    You could...but that hole is generally hard to impossible to access on an insert stove...if I wanted or needed to cut primary air down further (like maybe with a real tall chimney) I think I would make a permanent modification (like bend or remove a stop) that would allow me to do so at will.
     
    Ohio and Warner like this.
  16. Warner

    Warner

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2017
    Messages:
    7,019
    Likes Received:
    44,842
    Location:
    New Hampshire
    Ahh, I have no experience with inserts. It was very simple with the HT.
     
  17. Buck

    Buck

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2021
    Messages:
    19
    Likes Received:
    83
    Location:
    Victoria, BC
    100% Correct, I thinh you would have to disconnect the liner, pull the insert out and put it on its side to get at it

    Screenshot 2022-03-09 123449.jpg
     
    Last edited: Mar 9, 2022
    brenndatomu likes this.
  18. ReelFaster

    ReelFaster

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2016
    Messages:
    2,600
    Likes Received:
    17,821
    Location:
    S.Jersey
    Congrats on the new stove, I have the same model and I've been very happy with it.
     
  19. Buck

    Buck

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2021
    Messages:
    19
    Likes Received:
    83
    Location:
    Victoria, BC
    I'm still learning how to use it but I'm enjoying it a lot

    Our dogs love it too

    PXL_20220313_021738198.jpg

    PXL_20220310_043859030.jpg
     
    yooperdave, Ohio, blacktail and 3 others like this.