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DIY chains, riveting, bulk chain

Discussion in 'Chainsaws and Power Equipment' started by dgeesaman, Nov 30, 2014.

  1. dgeesaman

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    My property was formerly owned by an arborist. His family didn't leave loads of cool stuff behind when he passed and they sold it, but I did get a cord of firewood and a workbench with chain grinder and a couple of rivet tools. I've only used the grinder so far but it works well on .325 chain.

    Question is: will I save significant money buying a spool of chain and making my own loops? It seems like having a lot of loops and being able to switch chains in the field and grind them all when you get back would be convenient and efficient.

    Thanks,

    David
     
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  2. Jon1270

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    Depends how much chain you go through, and whether you get lucky and find a roll of chain at a better than typical price. A 100' roll of chain will make about twenty-two 20" loops. How much are you paying for 20" loops? How long would it take you to consume 22 or them? For most people it's not worth it.
     
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    *Despite the above, I currently have a breaker, spinner and several rolls of chain because I stumbled on a great deal. I'm having fun making up a few loops, but I'll end up selling most of it off. For the amount of wood I cut, one roll could last a lifetime.
     
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  4. Freakingstang

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    I agree with jon. I have the breaker, spinner, and several reels, or now remnants of reels. if you have a ton of saws and all use the same pitch/size then it could be worthwhile, but most times its just easier to buy a few loops and be done. its not hard to make chains, but the breaker and spinner will cost you 100 bucks, then a reel is 200-300 these days. when it was 100 bucks a reel it wasn't bad.

    since you have the tools already, look at some ebay auctions. I scored some auctions that had 10 loops of stihl RS chain in 24" and 36" for dirt a couple years ago from a rental company that never sharpened them, put on a fresh chain every rental. I broke them down to 16" and 20" and kept some 25" and 36". It was cheaper than trying to buy a reel. typically though, you don't want to break down and make/add/shorten well used chains.
     
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  5. MasterMech

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    It depends. If you have the tools, and you just want to be able to spin a loop up when you need, then there are usually short (25') reels available that will save you buying a $3-400 100' reel of chain.

    Usually the deterrent to buying reels is that there isn't enough of a cost difference to justify buying the tools and tying up the $$ in inventory. At $300+ a reel, things get pricey quick.
     
  6. Cut4fun

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    There is a guy selling 72LGX for (Listed BELOW) on my site. I have used up or sold most of my reels of chain except in 325 3/8LP now. So I have just been buying loops of 3/8 from this guy. If you need something besides 3/8 prices let me know OP.

    16" 72LGX060G $11.99 24" 72LGX084G $15.99 20" 72LGX072G $13.99

    Just click above links to go to his site.
     
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  7. bogydave

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    I caught a sale & got 10 new chains & free shipping.
    5 ea of 20" LGX & 5 of LPX , $140 for all 10.

    I use about 1/2 ( at most ) of a chain a year to cut 8 cord.
    20 + years worth of cutting.
    Plus I have a couple old chains for when cutting junk & trail work

    I keep a couple in the saw tool box in case I need to swap in the field,
    but usually just file at home when needed.

    Be fun to make your own chains,
    maybe you'll be able to sell a few to buddies to make it at least break even.

    Don't let economics be the only factor.
    Doing "Fun stuff" is not overrated :)
    All hobbies cost a little $$.
     
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  8. Freakingstang

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    good link dude. prices are close to what I was paying in 2005 for chains. I miss my amish stihl dealer.. 2 20" chains were 21 bucks, 2 24/25" chains were 28 bucks. basically bought one for full price and a 2nd was 4 bucks more.

    on a side note, how is LGX? I've been using RS and RSC for years now
     
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  9. bogydave

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    Good chain IMO
    After running them both for 8 cord each
    RS & LGX cut about the same
    LGX is a bit cheaper so I use LGX & LPX
    I think I get LGX is a bit sharper & easier to sharpen, & stays sharper
    But just by a hair :)
    I'd heard RS stayed sharper longer, I found just the opposite.
    I didn't see enough difference to pay $14 more per loop,
    I got 2 LGX (or 2 LPX ) for the price of one RS3 here
    But I'm the frugal type :)
    Link:
    20" RS3 is $29.50 here.
     
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  10. w8ye

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    RS3 is green safety chain.

    I only buy yellow chains

    RS is also around $29.50 + tax here But if you buy three chains at once they are a little cheaper

    I cannot tell a difference in the way LGX and RS cuts when they are both sharpened on the same grinder with the same settings.

    3/8" LGX weighs a little less than RS if they are both .050" gauge.
     
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    I don't notice any difference between the LGX & LPX, even when using the nose of the bar.
    I'm thinking there's some Gov't or OSHA safety specification for green & yellow chain,
    but the specs & design don't effect the type of cutting I do.
    Might be more smoke & mirrors than fact.

    With the LPX, I still had kick back, the nose still limbed well,
    I rarely bury the tip of the bar in wood,
    but when needed, I was able to make bore cuts with LPX just fine.

    IMO; LGX & RS would/should be a little lighter weight than the LPX & RS#
    & cheaper to make
    not having the special designed humped link ahead of the cutter.

    However, I'm just cutting 8 - 10 cord of firewood, not making a living felling & cutting.
     
  12. mike bayerl

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    I'm lucky too. My dealer does buy 2 get the 3rd free. 3 chains go a long time for me.
     
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    The last stihl chain I bought was RS I guess. It was .050 20" 3/8 chain. I paid like $24-25 a year ago and thought that was too much. I getmost of my chains now off logger buddies that file them a few times each till their all jacked up and dont cut. I then grind them back and lower the rakers. I pick up a half a dozen at the time. Those full chisel safety ones I get that are husky brand I just set to the side. In my opinion they dont cut near as fast and I am Grinding them on the same sharpener.
     
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  14. JustWood

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    I used to buy rolls of chain and make my own.
    Found a place on line that will ship 10+ loops for about the same I can spin them for. No brainer.
     
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