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Breckwell Airwash cleaning - how and how often?

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  1. don2222

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    Hello
    I am working on this Breckwell P22 - it is a very nice unit and puts out a lot of heat for it's size! I replaced the mini snap disc with a nice full size air stream variable snap mounted in a cradle and set for 100 degrees for longer lasting and much greater reliability. I replaced the exhaust blower with the stronger 1.75 amp Gleason Avery and used the same stronger GA blower to replace the noisey convection blower! Works great.
    The glass soots up real quick and easy so I removed the air wash baffle on the fire door and WOW, there is a lot of crud in there!!!

    How often should this be cleaned?
    See pics below!
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    Pic 1 - P22 fire door
    Pic 2 - Fire Door inside
    Pic 3 - I removed 2 nuts holding airwash baffle and removed airwash baffle plate. See all the crud!
    Pic 4 - Crud close up!
    Pic 5 - Dirty marks on glass from dirty air wash!
    Pic 6 - Closeup shows glass gasket does not go along the bottom of the glass so air can come in from the outside front to clean the glass. Also there is a washer in each bottom corner of the glass to hold the metal baffle bar away from the glass to allow air to go inside and keep the inside of the fire door glass clean while the stove is running!
    Pic 7 - All clean!
    Pic 8 - Suggested tools used!
     

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    Hello
    After all the cleanup a nice spritz of VHT ultra high temperature Flame Proof flat black paint on the inside door is a good dark color that hides the dirt.
    Pic 1 - Spray Paint
    Pic 2 - New Door and glass Gaskets!
     

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    It works!
    Blowers are quiet and glass is staying clean!
     

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    Thanks don2222!

    I've lurked for a couple of years here on the forums. Breckwell P22 threads don't come up very often. Joined up just to see your photos.
    I've had a P22 for about 3 years that I got a deal on because it was a display unit and had a little warehouse rash on it.
    It's been a good stove, reliable and well suited for the space we wanted to heat.
    Minor burn quality issues have been fixed with a thorough cleaning. Haven't had to buy any parts yet.

    I was surprised to see you posting about the air wash, because even though it is advertised as being a small stove with big stove features,
    I couldn't see how an air wash could work with the plate at the bottom of the glass being against the glass.
    The glass has always gotten dirty fairly quickly, so I assumed there was no air wash.

    Your pictures show me to look for no gasket along the bottom of the glass and the washers that hold the metal plate away from the glass.

    I'll check my stove tomorrow. I think those washers are missing, or maybe on top of the plate.

    Thanks again!
     
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    X2 welcome Smokey B!! :)
     
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    Welcome Smokey B
    Check out your air wash. Mine was very dirty!
    Post a pic of your stove if you can?
     
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    Thanks for the welcome guys!
    I'll have to get used to answering to smokey now. LOL
    I just came up with my forum name thinking it's kind of funny and usable on this forum and automotive repair forums.

    My stove has the flat washers under the nuts, but flat washers aren't really necessary there since the holes are not much bigger than the studs.
    It appears that your washers are just held in place against the glass by the metal plate. My plate is flush to the glass. No wonder the glass dirties up quick.

    I took the nuts loose, but is the plate held in place by the rope gasket? It doesn't come off easily. I'll have to take the door out to the garage for some cleaning.

    The window gasket doesn't seem to be across the bottom of the glass - I slid a card down between the door and the glass and it slid way down in.

    I'll get a couple of photos shortly.
     
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    Photo 1: P22
    Photo 2: It's a Warnock Hersey!
    Photo 3: No, It's a Breckwell.
    Photo 4: Door with washers behind nuts. About due for a new gasket.

    Can the build date be found from the WH-224-9280?

    p22.jpg Warnock hersey.jpg breckwell.jpg door.jpg
     
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    Warnock Hersey is the UL testing lab that approves all 120 vac home appliances for customer safety.
    The Manufature date is under the smaller hopper lid in the front right corner.
    See pic 1-2 below

    My Breckwell P22 with the new updated Ashley Control Panel (pic 3) stove is;
    MFD = Feb 2014

    Your stove has the older Control Panel with the gold color background for the on-off and fuel feed buttons
    You can upgrade to the control panel with the on-off and fuel feed buttons with the red background (pic 4) if you remove the jumper on the back. :)

    What is your stove MFD?

    Click on pic below to enlarge:
     

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    My reference to Warnock Hersey was meant to be a humorous reference to posters who were apparently unable to find any other branding on their stove; but maybe that came from *ahem* another forum.
    Now I have found the smilies on this forum. :thumbs:

    Mine doesn't have a date; it does have made by National Steelcrafters of Oregon, so I'm assuming it's Breckwell before USSC? I don't know how long it was a display model, but I got it about 4 years ago, unburned.
    I see the red control panel has 5 feed rates - is it originally designed for one of the other Breckwell models? Or maybe just different firmware? Does it go 1 hotter? :D (Spinal Tap reference)

    I think I've seen a post about the Ashley panel - I'll have to try to find that again.

    What are the differences? Better components or different fan speed control programming?
    I don't see myself upgrading until the need arises ... it's supplemental heat in an addition with no ductwork, but it does seem to put a big dent in propane usage for the whole house.

    I typically just run the stove on #2 and leave the air control knob where it's at. I occasionally bump it up to 3.
    I've thought about a thermostat, but the stove really doesn't seem to like the low setting, even trimmed up. Maybe that 1.75A GA motor would help that, when the time comes for replacement.

    There were no washers under the air wash plate, so I added a couple out at the edges. We're looking at temps approaching 80 this week, but maybe Friday night will be chilly enough to try out the airwash.
     

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    A lot of new time posters really do think Warnock Hersey makes all the pellet stoves. LOL

    National Steelcrafters just make the body of the stove. After USSC bought Breckwell we now see the Ashley Control Panels

    The Breckwell Control Panel with the red Buttons is the replacement board for all models. When the jumper on the back is removed, heat level 5 is disabled for the small stoves such as the P22.
    This new board does adjust the convection fan differently with the heat levels.

    The stronger 1.75 Amp motor will make the stove run all day on heat level 1

    Good work on the air wash fix, you should see a big difference, please let us know. Thanks!
     
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    Awesome!

    Tried the P22 with the windows open on the usual level 2 setting for about 8 hours. The glass stayed clean at the bottom, and the top half just had a little haze.
    Much better than the light brown ash build up that used to start collecting after a half hour or so.

    A new problem cropped up, however.
    The wife says that I've gotta buy a brickback for the stove now that she can see inside.

    I see it here;
    Breckwell P22/ P4000 Firebrick- 3 piece- Replaces A-M-Brick22- PP1030 | East Coast Hearth

    So I'll be ordering before next heating season.

    Thanks again!
     
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