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Ash: Seasoned vs. Unseasoned

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  1. Skier76

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    No, I'm not looking for recipes!

    I've been burning some unseasoned ash that came from a standing dead tree that fell. I haven't used the moisture meter on it as of yet. But you can tell that the splits are a bit heavy.

    I've noticed the stove will hover around 400 with the ash in there. Not bad, but not great. My seasoned wood will easily rocket things higher.

    Anyone else notice this?
     
  2. Chaz

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    I'm sure we burnt a lot of less than dry ash in the past, but didn't have a thermometer on the stove.
     
  3. Backwoods Savage

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    Yes, I've tried to burn ash (right away) that has been dead for several years but found that it always pays to let it be in the stack at least another year.

    Again, yes, it will burn but let it dry more and it will burn much better.
     
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    Anyone else noticed low temps when burning unseasoned wood? I'm gonna say yes.
     
  5. buZZsaw BRAD

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    Been my experience most standing dead is over 20% on the MM. Id let it season for a few months once SS.
    I cut a good size 20"+ DBH one back in end of September (it was satnding dead but i didnt fell it). Split some last week and MM reading was over 20%. Big rounds seemed lighter in weight after a few weeks under cover. I guess if thats all you have burn it. Some heat is better than none.
     
  6. Ctwoodtick

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    I burned some very wet wood my first year or so of having my stove. Had to babysit the stove and was constantly thinking I was gunking up the flue. I think 400 stove top temp was about the high at that time. More creosote than I get now by far. Just sweep chimney mire often if burning wet wood.
     
  7. Woodwhore

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    The stuff i just cut eas on the ground and sounds like your hitting a baseball bat together. 14 % its gorgeous but it was on the ground
     
  8. Woodwhore

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    Ill take down a dead standing ash tomorrow at the sweet ash hoard spot and see what she reads
     
  9. Woodwhore

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    Yup
     
  10. buZZsaw BRAD

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    I was kinda surprised at the fallen ash you just cut roadside with the moisture content of 14-17% fresh split. I wouldve bet it over 20%. But G4U and your customers. Be nice to have a few more like that, huh?
     
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    It’s been my experience that if the tree was killed by eab, it’ll stay wet and rot on the stump. If it died for other reasons, it’ll get drier and harder the longer it stands, up to a certain point,I’m sure. I have some here that was cut before the bugs got to it and it cuts as hard as any dry maple or beech
     
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    Same here, something about the holes the bugs leave in it. I wonder too if the tree doesn't try & push sap up as it dies & it never goes back to the roots.
     
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    I’m not entirely certain what it is. I do know, at least around here, that once the bugs get to it and it doesn’t leaf out, the bottom 15’ gets punky quick.
     
  14. Woodwhore

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    Man, if i could get firewood like that everday id be happy, you saw the pic from above how white and clean it is, the only thing About selling firewood is the times you gotta sell stuff like that. I cant say it enough it sounds like its been seasoned for three years when you knock em together. Im sure you guys have found stuff like that. But theres plenty more, ill cut a couple dead standers today and see what we got. My Dads coming too so it should be fun. Cant wait til 1:30.
     
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    I’m burning some fresh split ash uglies this year. Mixing them with tulip, catalpa and pine.
    To be honest it’s a matter of laziness. I had about a cord of uglies I needed to move out of the processing area at the same time I was loading the basement. Threw some of the ash uglies on the truck with the mix of shoulder wood,,,not the whole cord.
    Yes, I notice the temp is lower than normal. That’s to be expected.
     
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    Woodwhore, do you think your ash was EAB killed, or other causes? Are there still live ash trees in your little grove, or all they all dead?
     
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    There is a few live ones but they are small. There is quite a few dead standing and also many barkless on the ground or hung up. The monster trunk i took the last couple of times had no evidence of EAB. There was ants hibernating close to the trunk pieces, iv noticed the smaller ones arent sick yet, even on my land alot of the smaller ones are good, however there is a few giants on my property that are still healthy. Further investigation today, close to 50 and sunny, its on at 1:30, pics to come!!!!
     
  18. Backwoods Savage

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    For sure.
     
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    Right on.
     
  20. Skier76

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    Lol! Certainly the case! Ash can at least go in sans sizzling and a big temp drop. Granted, 400 isn’t hot, but it’s not as bad as tossing on unseasoned splits of other wood. Sounds like a sizzling breakfast and feels like the A/C is on with the other stuff when wet.


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