Are persimmons supposed to fall this early?

Out for an evening walk tonight and some small persimmon trees right at the road edge have already dropped some.

should they be dropping now, or is that a sign of early winter, cold winter, or whatever a?

 

They always seem to fall ripe here in NE Texas around the first good freeze.

Are they falling there due to drought conditions?

I know the wildlife love them here, coyotes especially.

 

The exact same thing is happening with some of my persimmon trees in SE ohio. I have noticed every year some of the persimmon fruits dropping early.

The persimmon fruit can drop early if it has developed to a certain stage without being fertilized by pollen from a male persimmon tree. The fruit is essentially an ovom or an egg, the end goal being to be fertilized and carried away to ensure the future of species. I think this happens with other fruits as well.

This could be what is happening but I can't say for sure.

 

Woodpusherpro i don’t think e are in drought conditions here. Been hot for a few weeks, but we had some good rains, with another few days of rain coming.

 

We had a lot of persimmon trees where I grew up, including a Huge one in the front yard, next to the road.

We always seemed to have some fall early, I guess due to strong winds during storms, lack of pollination, dry weather, etc. They usually were still green and hard - so being kids, out came the tennis rackets and we would knock them a long way for fun. It was great!

Heh, my Dad cut down the tree in the front yard, and I didn't know why. Years later my older sister told me the circumstances...

One of the town drunks would get money for food from the folks in town, but when the persimmons were ripe he would use the money for cheap booze. Then he would climb our tree and eat persimmons. As you can imagine, a diet of primarily persimmons affects the digestive system in a "runny" way, so usually the guy would do his business while still up the tree...

Dad was so worried that we would come home to a drunk that had fallen out of the tree with his pants down, dead in our driveway, that he cut the tree down...

(That explained a lot...)

 

A pollinated flower becomes a fruit. There are male and female Persimmons. They are dioecious.
A tree heavy with fruit may abort some to avoid branch failures and it may have more fruit than it has resources to support to maturity.

 

I don’t know a whole lot about the cycles/habits of persimmon but I will say that no tree makes predictions. They react to current or past recently past conditions.

 

Thanks for the welcome Chvymn99 and Backwoods Savage!

We had lots of persimmon trees in the area where I grew up, and I do remember one year we had an extremely windy summer storm that knocked off most of the fruit.
The 10-15% that were left on the tree grew as large as the Japanese varieties, but with a pink/salmon hue until they were completely ripe. The fruit seemed to be sweeter than usual, and somewhat less astringent.
I wondered if that would be good to do every year, until I got to thinking about how much time and effort it would take to knock several hundred green persimmons out of that big old tree...

 

Well, a bit of an update. I walked by there before any had been squished by cars, and most of them are green. Could be doing a jettison as suggested