You try and be a nice guy...and you get it stuck in your ear... My neighbor had his land logged. The only access he has is a 8.5 ft right of way over my far property line. He hired a kid (23 y.o.) and the whole deal was screwed up from the beginning. The neighbor pretty much swindled the so called logger, the logger was very inexperienced, there Conservation Police got involved over trees dropped in a trout stream and driving through it, equipment breakdowns, parking on my property along the right of way, busting up trees outside of the right of way, making the right of way into a rutted mud pit, it just goes on and on for the past year..yes, a whole year and it's not done yet. Anyhow, I talked to the kid/logger and told him how disappointed I was with the way the road had been destroyed and my trees banged to heck, he told me he would be done that week-that was 5 weeks ago and he also told me he would drop off a face cord of seasoned fire wood...you know where this is going...I had not seen any fire wood at all so I got in touch with him and he dropped it off Tuesday while I was at work...I saw the pile when I got home and was excited! Just got it stacked, had to split a few pieces. What a pile of crap wood...It ain't seasoned at all, it don't measure up to a full face cord, and about 60% of it is punky...WHAT THE #$%&! That's what I get for being a nice guy...I feel like a stooge... I went easy on him because he is young and he seemed to be trying to make a go of things...my fault. I would not do business with this guy ever and if someone asked me about hiring him I would tell them to run far and fast from this kid. I can't believe he took advantage of me like this...what a short changed pile of crap wood...what a fool I was to be what I consider a good guy...just goes to show me that there is no fool like an old fool.
You should educate this "kid", about the crap he left you, and inform him the word of mouth can both help and not help a businessman. The neighbor shouldn't be left off the hook. Try to meet him at the right of way, just to show the damage.
When I talked to him I made it clear that I was disappointed that he didn't keep things neater and communicate better. Also, told him to think what local folks will think about his work when he leaves a mess laying around for a year. I thought it got through to him.
I agree, he should be on the hook...but...his right of way is impassable for the most part and will likely be so til next summer, although a snowmobile will make it once things freeze and we get a snow. So he got some money and took advantage of an inexperienced kid, now he has no access unless he really spends a lot of money...I don't think he really cares though. I sure ain't gonna let him use my good road that goes to my house and let him cut across my hay field...hope he has muck boots it's a mile hike back to his property...
Sorry to hear you got screwed over when trying to be nice. Live & learn.. By the way . Plastic skis on a snow machine will go over wet ground pretty good.
Sorry to hear that shack. Sounds like those two deserve each other but it’s too bad you have to get caught in the middle.
Not sure how all this stuff works but I’d be harping on the neighbor. He profited by messing up your property. I would think it’s his job to get everything rectified.
In my experience, loggers and general contractors are cut from the same cloth. I wouldn't trust either of them if I had a 12 gauge in my hands and a Rottweiler standing next to me. I’m sure there are plenty of honorable men in both lines of work, but the nature of the job gives a lot of wiggle room for the lowlifes. My days of needing a GC are past me. If I do need a logger, there will be lawyers and an escrow account involved.
Agreed 100%, he gets an earful or gets a bad rep via word of mouth he will wise up eventually (hopefully). It's the only way sometimes people learn is by failing over and over again. Young kids like that sometimes think they are invincible have the world by the cahonies, its only when you get a bit older you start to realize how things really are. Again agreed 100% on the neighbor should be held accountable as well, he hired the kid and the kid destroyed part of your property, for the neighbor to just turn his a cheek and be like o well I didn't abuse the road the kid I hired did that and leave it between you and the logger kid is disrespectful, he should feel partly responsible for the abused road. If that were me I would utterly awful that the people I hired destroyed my neighbors road and I'd go after the logger to make it right in whatever way possible. Not much logging done around my parts but GC's yes, they can be lowlifes sometimes, I've heard and seen way to many contracting jobs go awful! Why I try to do everything myself in my know how, I'd rather screw something up and save myself 1,000's vs. hiring a GC who is gonna screw it up anyways!!! I am also lucky to have family who are top notch master plumbers and carpenters and have taught me a TON!!
I do almost everything myself now. Either I pay someone and then I fix it or I do it right on my own. Either way I end up doing it so I may as well do it myself and save the money.
Couldn't agree more! Some things are just a little above my head but not many things. Most home improvements things I can tackle or at least think I can
good quality work costs money. But more money doesn't equal good quality work either. Sometimes you can find all three but those folks are very rare and even than being human they can have their bad jobs.
My mom used to tell me "you get what you pay for". When I grew up, I realized it was more accurate to say "you don't get more than you pay for". You are lucky if you get what you pay for.
Dealing with this scenario here right now...had the whole roof replaced on the house because of a leaky spot...didn't really need the whole roof done, just the one area, but decided since the whole roof was older that I may as well tear everything off and start over...you know, do it right, do it once. Well the family member that I hired (a somewhat experienced roofer) did a good job (I thought) until the leak came right back...and then when he came to look at it I realized that maybe he didn't know what he was doing after all when he started goobering silicone caulk all over the place...yeah, now I'm looking at making an attempt to replace that one area yet again (myself) after getting quotes from highly reputable local roofers to do it for $2k... a couple guys I called weren't even interested in quoting the job (too small, and too cold already) I figure I may as well attempt to do this myself, its only 1 valley and a 9 x 7' low slope roof...I figure I can't anymore than waste my time and a couple hundred $ on EPDM and supplies...worth it to me to potentially save $1800. Plus I'd really like to find/see the problem area/leak for myself so I can rub it in the nose of the "family roofer"
Theres an old sayin....that pertains to the vast majority of one or the other type of home contractor..... DONT TRUST THEM ANY FARTHER THAN YOU CAN THROW THEM!
That's the way I am and I built my own place a few years ago. I had to hire a few guys Like concrete guys, metal roofing guys...but it was all based on me working side by side with them or being a laborer...I have to say they were all men of their word and all of them went above and beyond for me. It was a true blessing.
So...this 'firewood guy'...not sure if I will do this...but he stacked up a good pile of logs 6 to 10 inch diameter on the far side of that there right of way....muddy as heck over there...but I have me a couple of tractors and a wagon...the logs have been there for a while...I might just go and cut some up in 6 foot lengths and throw them on my trailer and bring them back to process...that might start something that I don't want to deal with though...but I am thinking about it.
