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Amsoil Dominator oil in Chainsaw

Discussion in 'Chainsaws and Power Equipment' started by scooby074, Nov 12, 2015.

  1. scooby074

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    Hopefully I wont start WW III by asking this, but has/does anyone recommend running Amsoil Dominator in chainsaws?

    I know (now) that Sabre is the preferred Amsoil product but it's not available at my "dealer".

    I used to run Husky XP oil in all my saws/equipment, but I no longer deal with my local Husky dealer and the Stihl dealer (who also sortof carries Amsoil but I dont think they are an official dealer) recommended the Dominator as a synthetic alternative to the dino Stihl oil. Stihl Ultra isnt available in Canada.

    This is in a Husky 562xp. Husky 252RX and Stihl KM130 Kombi

    Looking around some sites, there isnt a lot of love for Dominator, but Im wondering if this is based on fact or opinion? I called the Amsoil Tech line and they said that Dominator meets TC spec (yeah not the greatest) and while Sabre is designed for saws, Dominator can be run with no problems, he specified 50:1, which is what I run anyways.

    Also I dont think that Dominator has stabilizer in it, at least they dont advertise it like Sabre, so a shot of Stabil shouldnt hurt???

    I got a $18qt of the stuff that I already opened... Dont want to waste it, but Id sooner waste it as opposed to taking out the bottom end of my saw...
     
  2. Horkn

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    I've used dominator in sleds, saws, whatever 2 stroke. It certainly won't hurt it.

    It's great oil, just not optimized for saws.
     
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    I think most of us on fhc or the other chainsaw sites run good oil. Ive never ran amsoil, but the slednecks around here. Seem to love it. For me its stihl ultra or redline. I lectured one of my friends for running cheap 2 stroke oil from bi mart in his new ms291 i dont think it did any good. I think all of the better quality oils are more than adequete for the guy who cuts 5 to 15 cords a year.
     
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    $18 a quart!? Holy crap!

    I got a case of 12 quarts Sabre Pro last spring for under a c-note.
     
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    Locus 2 stroke oil for me. Around $9 a qt.
     
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    Oil threads always bring up some interesting information and opinions. I have seen everything from rpm range to operating temperature to the additives in the fuel you use as part of why and what you should or shouldn't use brand X
    I now use dolmar full synthetic because it smells better than stihl ultra and is $6 a 6 pack cheaper. It also burns cleaner.
    I do know amsoil seems to have either people who love it, people who do not, and people like me that has no clue at all.
    I hope you have the best results with what ever oil you run.
     
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    I don't think it's great oil for long-term storage. If they're run often it will work. I always run 32:1 but that's me.
     
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    isnt the dominator the one that doesnt have corrosion inhibitors in it? meant for race bikes that are torn down often and not left sitting. I am not familiar with the dominator at all.

    Saber and interceptor are the main 2 that i sell. interceptor to the bike/atv crowd and saber to everyone else.
     
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    I put my amsoil guy on it. he is digging up the charts for me. will post what he comes back to me with.
     
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    Another AMSOIL dealer here. I've run a few quarts of Dominator in my stuff. No problems but like Mike said, it doesn't have the extra protection that Sabre does. Its also a higher viscosity oil than Sabre. It's designed to do one thing, keep bearings happy in a high-rpm race engine.
     
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  11. scooby074

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    Yuppers. $18.75 CAD or so actually (plus 15% tax) ... About $16USD when all is said and done
     
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  12. scooby074

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    Lack of extended corrosion protection is a concern. My "winter" equipment (like chainsaws) sit all summer and my summer equipment sits all winter. When I called the Amsoil Tech line there was no mention of storage issues :headbang:Maybe your Amsoil guy can shed some light on any potential problems:yes:
     
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  13. scooby074

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    What about Royal Purple HP 2C??
    They specifically list corrosion protection as a feature.

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    • Greater wear protection
    • Clean, efficient 2-cycle engines
    • Rust / corrosion protection
    • Increased engine performance
    • Ashless, to minimize exhaust deposits
     
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    I feel more comfortable running a oil that is chainsaw specific myself but I am weird.
     
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    I rely on the guy above me when questions come up because i ask and 5 minutes later he sends 10 charts/graphs/test results along with his own abreviated opinion on the results of all those tests. he came up empty on this request. I did a little searching and didnt come up with much either so i will pass along what he said and you can take it for what it is.

    "Sorry they use to have a good chart on this. Dominator is more driven towards the racing side and didn't see where it had any rust inhabitant in it. Interceptor is driven towards the injector side of things. Neither of these 2 should do damage but Saber is the choice for chainsaws/trimmers."
    that is the word from the guy above me that has been selling amsoil for close to 10 yrs now.

    I personally will stick with saber, dolmar/makita branded synthetic, or as a last ditch effort the echo powerblend or jonsered oil. fancy bike/sled oils have some side effects that you may or may not know about until the damage is done. One oil that i looked up for a customer did not blend with ethanol, another had disclaimers about using below a certain temp because of seperation issues. If your going to use something other than an oil recomended for chainsaws/trimmers. Do your own research before using it. do not rely on the ramblings of one of us keyboard warriors.
     
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    I should add...from my own experience and many others. "Racing" generally means the engine will be torn down, inspected, cleaned, parts replaced, and reassembled every race or couple races. corrosion from sitting unused over the winter would not even make the top 100 list of priorities in this application. There is a limited volume of oil to cram useful additives into and corrosion protection is most likely replaced with other more useful additives
     
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    Just don't run it last before you are going to store it a long time. :yes:
     
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    fordf150 , what oil didn't mix with e10? Or was it e85? I'm assuming e10, as you'd needs radical saw to run e85 in it.

    All the 2 stroke oils I've ever used, cheap or expensive have mixed fine with e10. We've been using e10 for ~20 years down here in SE Wisconsin, and its nearly impossible to get non ethanol fuel in this state. ( not that I've had any real problems with that though)
     
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    I am one of those that would never even consider Royal Purple or Amsoil. The ridiculous claims I have seen on bike forums turned me off to both brands. They may be just fine but no way for me.
     
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    It was ethanol in general. I will ask next time the guy comes in. He is running it because he only runs ethanol free gas. It was some version of klotz i think but cant remember. I have looked up quite a few different bike oils over the last year or so....seems people cant just be happy with a quality oil anymore......they read on the internet that this guy recomends h1r and this one dominator and this guy likes klotz so they think their new...completely stock 6400 needs some form of bike oil mixed 32:1 to survive.
     
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