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Advice on chain needed

Discussion in 'Chainsaws and Power Equipment' started by Joe Seaton, Mar 26, 2017.

  1. Joe Seaton

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    So I am in the market for a 24" bar for my ms362. And I am needing some advice on the best chain for hardwoods. I am looking for something that will cut fairly quick and easy to maintain. I do not have as much knowledge when it comes to chains and what all the terminology means as I would like. I am willing to learn from you all that do this all the time. Full skip, semi chisel, full chisel....I have no clue. I would like to have a little bit of knowledge when I go get my bar tomorrow.
     
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    How dirty/clean is the wood you are cutting? What kind of hardwood?

    Semi chisel will stay sharper, longer than full chisel. Skip tooth I don't think you'll need.
     
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    Just my opinion here, but a 24 inch bar on a 60cc saw is asking a lot out of it, especially in hardwoods. Horkn is spot on. I like the speed and efficiency of full chisel if the wood is normally clean.

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    I do agree on that a 24" bar is a lot for a 60" saw.

    Fwiw, I have cut hundreds of cords of shagbark hickory, ironwood, oak, beech, sugar maple, and locust with my 029 super, (57cc) and a 16" bar wearing all sorts of chain. The best chain I used on my 029s, and still have is Stihl RS yellow pro chain.

    I've since upgraded to a Makita dcs6421 with a 20" bar. I've only cut with the stock new trilink chain which apparently sucks, but if that's the baseline, I'll be impressed with the full chisel chains I have.

    I've cut with a brand new ms362 last fall, wearing a 16" bar and green safety stihl chain and it was no faster in the same wood as my 17 yr old 029 with a safety semi chisel chain.

    What size bar so you have now?
     
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    X2 on stihl rs yellow chain, holds an edge very well.
     
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    24" on an MS362CM will be happier with full-skip. After that, just be sure to keep your chains sharp.
     
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  7. Joe Seaton

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    20 inch
     
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    My 362 has a 16" bar chain combo. The chain is a Stihl full chisel yellow (RS or wbat ever the call it now) pro chain and its a tree eating machine.
     
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    Stilh specs say 25" max on the 362 so with a 24" you are close to that. If the wood has been dragged or, for whatever reason, is impregnated with dirt, go with a simi-chisel chain. If you are talking about felling and bucking 'clean' trees go with a full chisel chain. Maxing out the bar length, check the availability of a skip tooth chain in either style. Less drag from a skip tooth.
     
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    Stihl 24 is 25" or so they say. Skip would help it if it's hard to keep the chain from stalling.
     
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    Half or full skip for bigger trunks. I had problems with the chips not cleaning out fast enough last year on my 361 with the 24" bar.


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    I ran 24" bar on my 361 for a long time. Used skip, semi skip and full thru the years. Only difference i could tell was that you couldnt lean on the saw with full. Thing i like about skip is less cutters to sharpen.
     
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    To the OP, if you know how to run a saw and can keep it out of the dirt, get 33RS84 for full, 33RSF84 for skip, 33RSH84 for half skip.
     
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    Half-skip chisel (33RSH84) would be pretty sweet on that saw. But good luck finding it in stock anywhere. Maybe you will get lucky in your area but I know I would have to special order it.
     
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    You are correct about finding one. I waited a month for both the half and full skip.


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    Those green link chains suck. First thing I did when I got my 362 with that green link chain was take it off.


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    From having run both, there's a notable difference between a 362 and 362-CM, with the 362 being kinda "challenged". So, we oughta be clear that Joe IDed it as a 362, no suffix. In that case, forget full-comp 24" (25"?) chain. And ... in the real-world, vice short-spurt competition, I've found semi-chisel to cut way better-longer than full-chisel; any dirt involved, fuggeddaboutit.
    Some 60 cc saws work great with 24" bar, e.g. Dolly 6100. Combo even works great, spitting chips in a Granberg "MiniMill" w/semi-chisel full-skip in bitternut hickory. Key-word is always SHARP for chains.
     
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    Which did you go with....I just sold my standard carb 2012 model ms362...I only ever ran a 20" bar on mine as i only cut hardwood....I heat guys run 25" bars and I know they can run them, I just wouldn't think with much authority..
     
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    I went with a semi chisel. Cut a 46" red oak with really no problems at all. I was pleased with how it did.
     
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    I don't know that I've ever seen you post a picture of your escapades on here and considering your advanced knowing on many topics it would be interesting to see your set up.
     
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