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A lot of thorn apple trees.

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  1. trail twister

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    Lots of thorn apples. Think they if big enough will be fire wood 2019/20.
    Replant with a bunch of Maple seedlings i have and spread out about 44 pounds of acorns I collected.

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  2. Backwoods Savage

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    Thorn apples will make firewood but I hate cutting them. Not only because of the thorns, but the wood stinks bad. Therefore, I rarely will cut one and even then, most times I just leave it.
     
  3. Moparguy

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    Never heard of thorn apple before. I assumed at first you were talking about Osage Orange. Looks fun...
     
  4. J. Dirt

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    Backwoods Savage is right about the thorns and the sour stink! I got a bunch of it last winter from a lot clearing job. The nice thing was they were cut at the base then they ran over stuff with a forestry mulcher and picked up the useable stuff with an excavator. It took care of most of the thorns and I didn’t have to do much cutting on it.
    Moparguy we always called it thorn Apple or hedge apple. It always seems to be in the hedgerows along with what I guess are crab apples that don’t have thorns.
     
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    Takes a while to dry as well. Have fun with that project!
     
  6. lukem

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    Girdle them now. Cut them up for firewood after the tops die out.
     
  7. amateur cutter

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    ^^^^^
    This & girdle them deep. I grew up on the Thornapple River, & guess what we had on the lot when we moved there. Still don't care for those trees. Bulldozer fodder as far as I'm concerned. Good luck.
     
  8. The Wood Wolverine

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    I've never heard of them either. Doesn't look like much fun. o_O
     
  9. Aje1967

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    Looks like Cock-Spur Hawthorn. I think the wood is pretty dense and the tree has good wildlife value. Dangerous to work with I would think.
     
  10. Backwoods Savage

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    We even have a Sportsman's club near us and it is called, Thorney Acres. Rightly named.
     
  11. billb3

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    Hawthorn and thorn apple are the same tree. I know there are little shrub ones with little blue fruits and crabapple sized ones with tons of red fruit clusters that the birds like. The only ones I've seen were in Florida.
     
  12. bear 1998

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    Looks like a lotta brush to me..:tears:
     
  13. J. Dirt

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    I think your right on the real name being a hawthorn. :salute: The only thing I’ve noticed that makes them not as bad to deal with is the thorns always seem very brittle. If you run an axe or saw bar down the sides they seem to plink off. I feel bad though for who ever or what ever travels through the bed of prickly pokers you leave behind! :eek:
     
  14. Maina

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    I use hawthorn berries to make my blood pressure medication. Works way better than anything the doctors gave me for 40 years and no side effects. I’m planning to plant a couple in the future just for that.
     
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    Do they grow in Maine ?
    I'm looking for something different besides redbud/dogwood/cherry to plant along the street beside/under the electric-services wires. End result landscaping being less lawn to cut.
     
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    Better check your local rules they might be on a no plant list
     
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    Absolutely. There’s a line of them leading into one entrance of the Maine Mall in So Portland, and there are streets named Hawthorn in about every town. They’re beautiful right now covered in bright red berries.
    I want to plant a line of Hawthorn, Elderberry, and high Bush blueberry in the future, but I need to figure out a way to keep the deer away. Maybe if I have enough it won’t matter.
     
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  18. trail twister

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    I have never seen flowers on them and I have lived here 33 years. Also as you can see by this one there are now red berries on them either.

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    I have a long handle scraper I use to remove posin ivy vines from trees I am going to cut. I also use it to peel loose bark off the dead Ash trees.
    I think it will work fine for scrapeing the thorns off. the brush can be piled on thr stumps and then burnt to burn up the thorns.

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  19. Backwoods Savage

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    Here is a picture to dwell on. I had never even heard of apple blossoms in October before, but here they are:
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    Yes, that is on a thorn apple.
     
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