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Tree ID even though I have a good idea

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  1. jrider

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    BA7224BE-4D5A-4C2A-95F5-06AF04CCF0B9.jpeg F604D551-C880-4C51-A90B-691559442AE3.jpeg Got a load of this dropped off today. Tree guy told me what it was just looking to see what you guys have to say.
     
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    Though the wood looks dark like walnut, I say an old elm tree. Hope its not too much trouble to split.
     
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    But what kind of elm? I ran one piece through the 4 way and it split easy
     
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    Hurry up and do the rest before it realizes what it is.
     
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    Red Elm I think, far better than Chinese or pizz Elm. I'll take it if ya don't want it.
     
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    So was your idea right?

    Red Elm is one tree that has never come my way from the tree guys although there are some growing here.
     
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    Yeah, some elm like red will split rather easily and that's what tricked me once into thinking the woven grain of Elm was just a myth. Then I got a huge score of pizz Elm and learned the hard way, now I have Elm-PTSD. I'm still trying to figure out how to tell the easy from the hard Elm. Maybe the darker the heartwood the better?
     
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    Tree guy told me it was Chinese elm. But could it be red since it split easily
     
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    Chinese elm as I call it will usually have a white streak running vertical somewhere on the bark plus it doesn't have a real pleasant smell once split... I
     
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    Thanks for linking to your Elm thread buZZsaw BRAD . So maybe when red elm splits easily for me its been fresh cut? Now thinking about it it probably was, but can't remember for sure. I will pay attention to that next time, but its odd because I always assumed the pliable stringy woven grain was made worse by being wet and that is usually the case with stringy Elm. I get the difference now, there's unseasoned wet and there's fresh felled wet :yes:. Now can someone tell me why some hard boiled eggs are a hassle to peel? Maybe I need to find a cooking club site haha!
     
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    That white staining is usually ascribed to Siberian elm here, Kev- and yes, Siberian stinks something fierce.

    Here’s an Internet pic of the Chinese elm bark-

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    Siberian Elm. It looks like the elm leaf beetles have been feasting on the leaves.
     
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    The last time i scored large green elm (this was American elm)(i wont even attempt to hand split the barkless dead elm i encounter despite the fact it is great firewood) was a roadside fresh cut over ten years ago Urban Woods . At the time i knew it was elm and could give me trouble hand splitting. It was Winter, the wood was frozen, knot free and split like a breeze. Maybe 14-16" rounds. Been my experience with any wood, given the chance to dry on the ends and check it will be a LOT HARDER to hand split. Found that out with some red maple rounds i scored late Winter and had them neatly stacked on edge. It had warmed a bit, dry air and the ends started to check. I went to split them 2-3 weeks later and UGH!, no go with one or two "average" buZZsaw whacks. Now i store them with an end down to stay wet. I dont like to have rounds sit for more than a month and try to process rounds before bringing more wood in. I did that with the Norway maple at my friends the last couple weeks. They were much easier to split last week. Still have several to finish up there. I currently have some dead ash rounds resting on end in my processing area awaiting the Fiskars. They were checking badly and with the rain all week i split a couple the other morning and it makes a huge difference.
    Pic of ash rounds end down. IMG_0530.JPG
    Oh, i crack my eggs before i hard boil them. Worked great for Marcy in the Charlie Brown Easter special!
     
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    Good tip on the end down storage Buzzsaw! I'll pass on the egg trick haha, but seriously, someone I know who raises chickens for eggs recently told me to boil them with a good teaspoon of baking soda. I still have to try this for myself.
     
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