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Small whiff of smoke.

Discussion in 'Modern EPA Stoves and Fireplaces' started by Frosty603, Mar 4, 2019.

  1. Frosty603

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    Just lit my Jotul 3, I’ve been using this stove for 3 seasons. Purchased it brand new and had it professionally installed, I’ve never encountered this problem.

    I put curl two pieces of newspaper into a funnel shape and light them to start a draft and warm the chimney.

    I have some small pieces of paper balled up and a small pile of kiln dried red oak, cut into 1”x1”x8” some seasoned wood on top.

    Fire starts like normal, but from the back of the stove I noticed a very faint wisp or smoke. The stove has a heat shield or cover so I can’t see where the source.

    Once I closed the door and the fire warmed up, the wisp Of smoke stopped. My stove is vented out the top, so it was not a leaking chimney pipe.

    I’m letting the fire dwindle now for further inspection once cool. Any tips? I hope my firebox is not cracked.


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  2. billb3

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    My TN19 will do that if I leave the door open a crack starting it cold. The smoke is going back thru the secondary tube supply.

    Path of least resistance.
    More likely to happen in warmer weather when the chimney just doesn't want to get going.
     
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    Yup. Reverse draft because of atmospheric pressure and a cold chimney. Unless there is a physical obstruction (probably not) I wouldn't worry. If there is a window nearby it helps to crack it open when starting from cold in case conditions are right for this.
     
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    Thank you for the responses, I had an exterior door that was in the room wide open, I did leave that detail out. I’m going to inspect in the AM. I hoping for the best, if I don’t find anything I will simply try to recreate it. But most likely Mother Nature will not have the same conditions. Thanks and stay warm.


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    Hopefully all is well with the stove and it was just a fluke draft.
     
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    X2 and welcome Frosty603 :handshake:
     
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    A sign that you did not warm the chimney enough but this usually only happens during very warm weather.
     
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    First, "welcome" Frosty603 , Nice to have you here with us! :handshake: I just happen to know a few folks from 603 area code myself! :whistle::rofl: :lol: Anyway, you're smoke issue is "kinda normal" . The Guru above this post, Mr. Savage said it all! My Fisher will do it occasionally and sometimes more than I want it too, but that usually my mistake! :whistle:
     
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    X2. :yes: Get heat draft going up.
     
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    My nc30 does it frequently but only with the loading door wide open. It’s not because it’s warm outside but because the room temp matches the outdoor temperature which means there is nothing to power the draft engine of the chimney.

    Here you can see smoke puking out the secondary inlet. Close door and it reverses. Heavy coldish smoke doesn’t want to climb up the chimney.
     

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    I inspected yesterday and found nothing. Lit a fire following the same procedure and had no whiff of smoke. I just lit a 2nd fire and had no problem. I followed the same steps, 21 degrees outdoors today, similar temp yesterday around when I started.

    Must have been a temperamental fluke. Thanks for all the great advice and knowledge shared. Keep warm!

    Thanks for the welcoming everyone!


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    something similar happened to me yesterday, first time in 4 winters

    i have an electronic probe, 20 inch above the stove and it react to any small change of temperature, it was showing 30-32f, normally i just need to open the windows and i need to put more paper so the fire start in a "normal way" but this time around the temperature stuck for about 2 minutes at 30-32f and the basement was full of smoke and "bang" something happened and the chimney started to work as expected

    this was not a nice experience :jaw:
     
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    I have this happen with my stove here and there. I've learned be sure to turn the ceiling fan off that's right near it, and basically get the wood lit and door closed (or barely cracked open) ASAP. I attribute it to my short chimney.
     
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    Spirch sounds like a cold air pocket in the chimney acting as a plug.. I experienced many of these issues with my previous stove. Now I only light a cold stove a few times a year
     
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    I will also get a "burp" on a wind change of direction. The way my roof peak is, any north, east or west winds are usually fine, but any south winds I'll get a "roll" off my roof and get a burp.
     
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    Anybody running an exhaust fan (above kitchen stove or bathroom exhaust) when you were starting? Once or twice when the weather was warmer and I was firing up the stove while the Wif was fixing breakfast I have run into a balky draft! Got a little smoke smell until the draft got itself sorted out.
     
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    I can definitely suck the flue backwards with the dryer running and/or the range hood blowing if the stove is cold and loading door open. Not a problem with a hot stove, definitely not a problem with the loading door closed since the oak is supplying all intake air.