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Stove U P S babble

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  1. CleanFire

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    That IS a beast. :thumbs: Still cheaper than those electric baseboards though. :thumbs:

    (Back in the day) - APC made a 2,200w Datacenter grade UPS that took a 20A 120V nema plug, and that unit had the ability to 'gang' a 2nd battery pack to the base unit for extended run time, IIRC. These units were not certified "pure sine wave", but they were darned close, for being manufactured in the '90s / mid-2000 range.

    These units were popular for detached server rack installs / 120v compatibility. Might be worth a CL look.
     
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    I plugged the numbers into APC's site and this is what popped up. Notice the run times...........

    APC UPS Selector/Calculator - Find the Correct Battery Backup

    1500va looks to be the smallest I'd venture with and only to get the stove to shutdown.

    Check this fella out.............. :)

    Pellet Stove Battery BackUPS
     
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    Cool JT. But the price (!) .. Ouch. At the end of the day though, I'd think it would be less $$$ vs. doing a dedicated Inverter / battery bank build-out.

    Most of my experience ("back in the day") was with the SAU2200 series - although we did do a few 2200RMXL server rack installs also. IIRC the spec. for that unit was a dedicated 10/2 wire run to the equipment, w/ a 30A breaker in the circuit. I was technically the "programming" guy, but did get involved w/ some of the site builds & installs, due to my hardware background / experience. .. Translation: If I broke it, I could usually fix it .. before anyone found out. :)

    * I only mention above because if that were here: I'd feel a lot better w/ that UPS being on a 12/2 dedicated wire run, w/ a 20A circuit.

    We were lucky @ the house here: the stove outlet / -> and the living room "media center" outlet, share a dedicated 12/2 run w/ a 20A breaker. That is where both Cyberpower UPS units are currently installed - (1) for the stove only, the other for all the media jazz .. TV/DirecTV Sat. & DVR/BluRay Player/Laptop power bricks/IT "living room" equipment (Switch, Router). ... And (1) 10w LED clamp lamp, attached to the media shelf - so I can see all those beautiful wires.. when I'm tripping over them. :picard:

    Those APC BR1500G UPSes are good units: we have (2) of them installed at the primary work site, protecting a work-group level server, & various other IT equipment. * (No external battery packs though.) 12/2, 20A dedicated circuit, wired w/ fail-over, to generator power. Cyberpower UPS equipment protects the bulk of the remaining equipment (workstations, etc.) located throughout the office.

    Jeez, I wrote a novel. o_O Hope the info. is fun & informative JT.
     
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    I have the stove on its own 20A circuit and I could easily change the plug/outlet to a twist lock for the UPS. Lots of used stuff at the shop that is free if needed.

    Power flickered again sometime overnight and woke up to a stove on low and the house temp at 66*F............ Wifey gets why I wanna do this upgrade now. Power flicker was so slight it didn't even make the clock on the cook stove go blinky blinky!! Yet it was enough to of a blip to fluke the stoves controller. :mad:Way too sensitive IMHO!!:hair:

    Gonna pick up a small one and stick it in the stoves circuit, Then tranfer to my or Joey's PC once I get the better setup installed!! I can't take the :heidi:anymore!! :emb:

    :doh:
     
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    Good price, Just no easy way to slave in some more storage. I suppose it would be a dandy puter back up though! :D
     
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    If you had a UPS there wouldn't be a :heidi:
    Mind you this would only be good for those small bleeps :D
    It would be a start of some sort of protection :smoke:
     
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    JT, it would be worth a call to your utility company to have them do a service check- a loose connection @ the transformer ,or a defective transformer will cause havoc w/ your home appliances & equipment - nothing to mess around with.
     
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    We had it checked last year. Seems we got a fella down the road a piece that won't allow his trees to be trimmed. And one is just touching the lines in a breaze(above 15 mph ish).........:rolleyes:

    :mad:
     
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    I'd be cutting through all that red tape & finger pointing BS w/ a wood boring auger bit, and some stump remover, just 'sayin.
     
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    We imported some Beatles to gnaw at there tree! :)

    I guess the tree is an endanger species? Still doesn't make sense we can't trim a few limbs??
     
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    Property owner is a Dumbazz - all trees are endangered by one thing: or another. I'd Nuke the tree, and save the Beatles - I like their music. :)
     
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    Seriously JT, I would be highly pizzed, if here - if that limb was on a public right-of-way, there would be no question about the line being properly maintained.

    Dunno how it works in CT, but under utility power "terms of service" in NH, it is the landowner's responsibility to maintain all lines leading to the meter: if not maintained and causing issues to the grid, the utility company has the right to cut power to the offending property. *And they do here, they don't mess around.

    Today it's the pellet stove, what about when it's the compressor motor in the refrigerator getting stalled under load, or the cooking stove shorting, while in operation?

    I'd be talking to someone at the utility company to advise you are having appliance issues due to this & see what remedies are available, like today.
     
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    :rofl: :lol:

    We have, They are not willing to push the issue for some reason. He had the house up for sale last summer. We were praying it sold and the new owner had some sense. I will keep complaining to the utility company, Maybe a squeaky wheel deal will happen??

    Small ups should limit my :hair:for now?? Saw a 700va on ebay for less than $50!! :)
     
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    If you can afford the $130 for the Cyberpower 1500 AVR unit - go for it, we started out using the 1,000 watt model on the finicky Princess stove here, it worked good, just not enough juice for runtime.

    +1 w/ Squeaky wheel - ask them who gets the bill for the appliance repair and/or replacement.
     
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    Didn't think of that. I'll use it for sure!! The main board alone is over $300 clams.........
     
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    Um,no.Power companies can trim tree branches anywhere there is overhead lines.ANY cause of a disturbance in the grid gives them even more legal power.I highly doubt your neighbors tree branch is your problem.
     
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    How do you fella's feel about Refurbished units. Its from the OEM and has a 1 year warranty. About half the price of new, But also half the warranty.

    I'm not the only one with flicker issues, It's all up and down the block. I am the only one with the pellet stove with a finicky control panel though........... o_O
     
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