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older 70 to 80 cc saws

Discussion in 'Chainsaws and Power Equipment' started by In the Pines, Dec 20, 2018.

  1. In the Pines

    In the Pines

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    I'm debating about a upgrade to a larger saw.
    It won't be used very often so I'm looking at older saws.

    I've been looking on ebay but most listings, don't list the power.
    example 044 which I believe is a 70cc saw?
    With Stihl it appears the earlier models of todays saws just have a 0
    044/046/066
    Not sure on Husqvarna though.
    What kind of pattern do they follow?
    I found a 181 which I see is 80cc. a 61 that is 60 cc so do they follow that pattern?
    171, 281 etc?
     
  2. huskihl

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    In Stihl nomenclature, an 044 is about 4.4 cubic inches. 71cc. The numbers are close, but not always exact, due to (at least in the 0xx series of saws) even numbered saws being pro quality (024, 026, 036, 044, 046...) and odd numbered saws being homeowner quality (021, 025, 029, 039...).
    Then there's the MS series, where an 044 became an ms440, 026 became an ms260, etc. In most models, the only difference is the MS series have flippy caps for fuel and oil.
    Now we're in to the ms261, 362, 462...where each is a similar size to their predecessor, but with some av improvements and more epa-friendly engines.

    As far as husky goes, the first number denotes the series (how old the model is) and the last 2 numbers are roughly the cc. XP (or SE in older versions) stands for extra power and designates pro build quality.
    The 181 you mentioned is a few generations old but still a good saw. It later became the 281/288, and now it's closest model is a 390xp. The 61 is a pro saw from the 80's era with a non xp cylinder.
    Most 3xx series Huskies are current pro grade. 4xx series Huskies are homeowner grade. 5xx saws are current pro grade saws with autotune
     
  3. farmer steve

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    here are some charts that might help.
    Sluga's Saw Shop - STIHL chain saw specifications
    Sluga's Saw Shop - Husqvarna Chainsaw Specs
     
  4. M2theB

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    Excellent unraveling of the Stihl nomenclature!
    My whole world just got a little smaller!:yes:
     
  5. Armbru84

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    If a 288 or an 056 super interests you I have one of each to part with. Both older, can run long bars, and run great!!
     
  6. In the Pines

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    Yes that does sound interesting, sending a PM.
    I'm eyeing a 070 locally but I'm not sure about that yet either.
    Can a stihl guru message me or post back here I'd like for them to enlighten me on it.
    From reading, I guess there are some fake 070's being sold so I'm curious if the guy selling it is real or passing on a fake.
     
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    Made it as short and sweet as I could. The "cube" thing is only close, as some saws of a given size were already named, so later models the same size were just given a higher number. And then there's the whole av, super, and magnum thing. Sometimes the magnums were bigger, sometimes just louder
     
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    There's a clean Husqvarna 272 in the classifieds now, night want to take a look.
     
  9. In the Pines

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    Yea if it's the same posting, I was never answered when I asked about the bar.
    It's probably sold though since the posting was from 2017
     
  10. amateur cutter

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    Not a Stihl guru, but the 070 is big, heavy, & very difficult to get parts for. From what I know, not a saw you want to plan on being able to fire up on occasion to tackle a big log. The two saws that Armbru84 has would be a far better bet. Full disclosure, I know him well & have a saw he built for me. Good guy to do business with. If you buy used you would do well to buy from many members here. Almost zero chance of getting a lemon or line of BS. Just my .02.
     
  11. Screwloose

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    Have you considered a Echo 8000 ? I have 2 one of which I've had over 20 years. A 36" bar on one and a 28" on the other. Never a problem with either and I have never been embarrassed by cut times when cutting with other people. Supposedly heavy but as dependable as taxes.
     
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    no and the only reason is because I figure it would be easier finding a husqvarna or stihl in the HP range I'm searching.
    Also better parts support used or new.
    I hope that used parts will be around for a while. parts saws etc..
     
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    Echo parts are not hard to get. A big Dolmar is another good option. I do like the Echo saws too. Dead reliable usually.
     
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    Stihl is wonky on the #'s as Kevin mentioned.
    Regular 038 - 61cc
    038 Super - 66.8cc
    038 Magnum - 72.2cc
     

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