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installing a bathroom in the basement

Discussion in 'The DIY Room' started by ironpony, Sep 22, 2018.

  1. ironpony

    ironpony

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    So wife wants a full bath in the basement for when we have get togethers and to bathe the dog. Easy enough, cut the concrete, run some pipe, install a lift station, sewer is above the floor.
    Haha.
    So i rent a Hilti electric concrete saw and the vacuum for it. I get home, get everything set up start to cut and can't get deep enough to get thru the slab, saw cuts 4 3/4" deep not deep enough??????
    Well I chug along and make all the cuts, takes about 5 hours. I figure I will keep going and get the sledge and hit the slab, sledge bounces like I am hitting solid concrete. Take a few more swings and things start to move a little.
    I start to remove the pieces and the slab is about 5.5 inches thick, in a BASEMENT?? really?? Well I got all the concrete out and had to quit for the day. I will need to set grade for the piping and install the drain lines.
    Overall not a bad days work.


    PS the saw with the vacuum made almost zero dust, I was surprised it worked so well

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  2. MikeyB

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    Gotta love the Hilti. 5 1/2" seems like a lot of a basement slab. Keep posting pics of your progress.
    I truly enjoyed doing basement bathrooms back in the day.
     
  3. Chaz

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    Ironpony,
    I'm extremely interested in your project here.
    I have no basement, but our place sits on concrete slab.

    When installing the tub, they didn't put in a trap, as it seems to be at grade, so in summer when I have the fan on to bring in air, it also creates a backdraft from the septic through the tub.
    :doh:

    I have just put in stopper for the drain when tub is not in use, and that stops the backdrafting, but a more "permanent" solution would be preferred. This is not a project for the near future, but would like to correct the issue at some point.

    Would love more information on the lift station if you don't mind.

    Thx.
    :thumbs:
     
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    Just curious... It looks like the sump pump pit was already there? It's not being used for footer drains to your storm?
     
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    Nice work IP...I would have thought 4" would be max for a basement slab!
     
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    Depends on how many bodies are buried under it.......:bug: Just Kidding!!!
     
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    I would bet someone buggered up the estimate and the truck was allready loaded with the mix..... If its allready paid for you pour and level.....
     
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    At my old house, which we had bought as a shell (original builder ran out with the $ and owners decided to sell), the basement floor wasn't poured yet but they had dumped the excess from the foundation pour in section - probably where a boulder had been dug out and the hole hadn't been filled. Estimate that was probably 6-8" deep all told once we had the floor poured.
     
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  9. ironpony

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    yes it is existing but the house was built in 1960, no drains. The owner added it so that if water did get into the basement it would have some where to go and get pumped out. It is a solid concrete basin, I am going to add a sealed lid and sewage pump to it. The sewer line is about 3 feet above it and a foot to the left, convenient.
     
  10. yooperdave

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    This is what I have been putting off for a few years....the saw rental.

    I would be cutting a channel between the sump crock and the floor drain to install a connecting pvc pipe. That way, once the power goes out, and since the sump crock has the drain tiles emptying into it-always draining water, the water would just drain through the connecting pipe into the floor drain and not across the top of the basement floor.
     
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    Not Up to code in my parts , yooperdave- may want to check your area before doing that. Current rule is no ground water to be introduced to lateral going into a community system. Irony is, That I am on my own septic system and I am not allowed to pump my basement crock out overland but have to send it to my septic tank-- Catch 22? I am out in farm country ( I have no idea how they could come up with this assbackwards routine)
     
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    Probably something like that here, but WTH, I wouldn't check into it and the way I've been procrastinating about it, it'll never happen!

    Haven't had it happen in a few years now.
     
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