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  1. Chvymn99

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    Well, I'm kinda of at a lost and never had this happened. My 046 I think shelled its bearings and shredded the clutch assembly. Did I miss anything or misname anything. I've got a email in into Randy, since its going in for its port and MM next week. I'm hoping it hasn't done any massive damage. Any advise?

    I was sawing away cutting a 18" crotch off a main log to clean it up. I had tightened up the chain, it had loosened up. It was cutting and then all of sudden it started smoking and by the time I got off the trigger and out of the wood. It abruptly stopped, almost threw the saw out of my hand with the motor going upwards. It basically locked up. When I took the cover off everything was pretty much into pieces.

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    Brake was set?

    Is the piston scorched? Or is just the brake band and plastic welded together?
     
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    Can you move the crankshaft in its bearing at all? Other than rotation that is?

    EDIT: Looking at this a little closer, it looks like the one clutch shoe may have failed setting off the rest of the carnage. A clutch, drum, and needle bearing and you should be back in business.
     
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  4. MacLaren

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    Can/has or you have you ever saw this happen to a saw like this? I mean a saw in this good of condition? It had no more than a few tanks thru it. Im shocked.
     
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    No it was just humming away and then it started to smoke. As far as I can tell, I'm no way a trained eye, I think the piston is fine. I think its just the outer parts. I can rotate the little thingy with three fingers.
     
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    I'll clean it up in the morning for a better look, a lot of black stuff in there. But I can move the little thingy with the three finger, which I assume moves/drives the piston. Ok thanks...
     
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    It's not so much the saws' fault as it is the clutch itself. It's hard to get a clutch shoe to just separate like that. I don't know if the springs broke (most likely), clips failed or if the shoe itself had a defect. I have had saws in here that had clutch failures, but they showed signs of severely overheating the clutch and I don't see that in any of these photos. And those saws certainly had more time on them than this one.

    I assume this saw was in original condition or was it rebuilt?
     
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  8. MacLaren

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    Original condition for sure. Thx Master
     
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    Me too, but mechanical failures happen. I just want to make sure that I get it fixed, cause there more wood to be cut and its heading out for its port job this week. I just wanted to get a ideal what needed to be looked at and what parts needed to be replaced.
     
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    Yea, it was original, it was the one that I bought from him off the site about month ago or so...
     
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    No doubt. I hope its not too bad. I feel terrible this happened. I really do. I'll try and help all I can.
     
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    I've had clutch issues to both my saws similar to that.

    It happens with wear and tear.
     
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    I had a saw that had the break set and blew up a clutch. I didn't do it.

    But I bought it that way.

    Randy would go through it for a few extra bucks..
     
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    Kinda of what I hope. I sent him a email tonight. Figured I'd call him Monday and talk to him about it. But I remember you had a issue with one of your saws, right off the bat. I was going to back track to try to reread it if I couldn't make progress on this tonight. Thanks.
     
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    Dont feel bad, appreciate the concern though. That shows your character, for not only the sale of the saw, but also after the sale. You are a stand up guy. :thumbs:... I've ran several tanks of gas through it and never felt a issue, so there wasn't any fair warning. It was just a sudden thing, which leans me to mechanical failure like the others have said.
     
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    I truly appreciate that. And same goes for you! But nonetheless keep me posted on the damage. I'm just so sick that happened. We'll get her back in the saddle. :yes:
     
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    Is the brake band discolored from heat?
     
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    I'm wondering as well.......
     
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    I'd be curious to see the front side of he clutch drum too. I wonder if he found any of the needle bearing?
     
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    ???? I dont know. I can get better pics in the morning. And I'll look closer in the morning, just didn't feel like it tonight. I wanted to get a clear mind...
     
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