It doesn't make economic sense to haul wood over long distances anyway, unless your load is 3+ cords (IMO)
We're dealing (well...more like NOT dealing) with a pine beetle outbreak here in Alberta that's been going on for a few years now. It's completely illegal to transport any wood, any distance, that has signs of pine beetles in it. As for termites..I don't think we have them yet....but give it a few more warm winters like we've been having, and I'm sure we will. We do have carpenter ants, but that's about the only danger to structures that I know of. Have a good look at the wood. If you see signs of the little buggers, leave it where it sits. They're the last thing anybody needs to be dealing with.
Incorrect. Cords of seasoned soft wood go as high as $300 or much higher here in wood burning season. Friend has diesel and we did the 200+ mile round trip math and it's a grand total of $185 for seasoned cord of dry cherry hardwood. Try to buy a cord of dry cherry wood over here at that price and you are in the neighborhood of $500... probably higher.
You East coasters have it good when it comes to buying cords of natural wood. We smoke you though when it comes to pellets.
Well if you believe this article, and I have always wondered about it myself, moving wood from rural to urban areas poses far less risk, and most of these pests east of the Cascades can either migrate here on their own or can't compete in the environment. It's from the Department of Natural Resources of Washington State. "...the specific situation within Washington makes us comfortable moving logs from eastern Washington forests to western Washington mills." “Don’t Move Firewood!” What About Transporting Timber? I would be transporting it the correct way. I will spray a pesticide on the stack and around it to be safe(r).
So hows it going over there with the little bugger? In SE BC its all but moved on and we have lots of thriving lodgepole left. It never leaves entirely of course but I dont see reds anymore. If anything its getting hard to find a beetle kill tree that is standing as they are all rotting out at the stump. I remember a few years ago travelling the number 22 highway from bc into alberta and it was there but now when I do that trip to Calgary I dont see it anymore which is the same in my part of BC. Im off to lake Louise in a few days for a ski trip so Ill be looking around to see how things are going.
The mountain passes get regular log truck traffic coming over from the east side. And Craigslist is full of listings for firewood being delivered from east side orchards to the Puget Sound area.
It has not even hit Maine yet, but is as close as New Hampshire. My forester's (as in plural) all say to cut every ash tree as fast as I can, and I have been doing just that.
That's exactly what I am doing. That's what this article addresses. “Don’t Move Firewood!” What About Transporting Timber?
Our cut zone for a couple decades both before/during/after the pine beetle epidemic was around a 200 mile round trip. Yes, it was still inside Colorado state lines, but that many miles as you mention too. Around 2007-10ish the state park my road bordered offered beetle kill to the residents in my small mountain neighborhood, I inquired on the beetle kill and was told it's going to kill all the trees anyway like Steve mentioned in Canada about elm. Keep in mind, part of the legal cutting zones were to clean up for wildfires, as well as miles driven here are MUCH different than out on the east coast, actually, not all that far from the Wyoming border...... (Comanche Peak and past Red Feather & Dead Man Mag Craft )
Not here in VT yet, either. I heard a radio quote of 1 in 12 trees being an Ash here (haven’t spent any effort validating that). I have quite a bit, and need to get some cut ASAP. Like LodgedTree , I would take it personal if someone imported something for their weekend at camp. No illusions of escaping the EAB, but really don’t want ALB.
If Vermont got ALB, maple syrup would go to $3000 per gallon... So far we've been very lucky to quickly locate and mitigate the ALB infestations that have landed in the US.... Hope that continues.. It'll just take one moron unknowingly moving it to the wrong location for it to get a good foothold in the US...
The area I am grabbing from are the orchards. There's big business over there and I doubt anything horrible is on them... especially that hasn't already hitched a ride decades ago.
Perhaps not; Canada produces 71% of the world’s pure maple syrup, 91% of which is produced in Quebec. (Source here)
Also when I cut beetle kill I look for trees that are close to the road so I do not have to move them so far to get them out. As far as I am concerned I am doing a big favor by cutting those trees down. If a fire ever hit that area it is much less fuel that would burn because a lot of that beetle kill is gone. And when I say gone I do not mean laying around on the ground to burn but they are long gone.
This^ The state of Washington isn’t as strict rules go for. You can get good wood here. The basics of this is the more you haul it and the more you process it, the more expensive it gets. I just try to stay within 20-30 miles because any cost of gas is included in this both ways. Your friend having the diesel is a great thing, hopefully it gets the best bang out of it hauling. If you get a chance to get apple out there dotman17 , you’re in for a treat but it isn’t cheap. Craigslist is gonna boom in a couple more months close to spring when the storms really start churning up again. Homeowners get really concerned about high trees and sometimes its insurance companies telling them they need to do this or rates go up. This is entirely your choice, I just saw ridiculous amounts of wood on Craigslist and Offerup last year between February to June and took as much as I could. Still haven’t finished processing it all and I didn’t go much further than Sumner or Bremerton. Whatever works for you though, there’s just a lot to be had out there when the time is right.
Sorry Steve. I don't mean to call you out but before I joined this site, I had no idea how good you folks had it back East with wood prices. It's true this is only one site and there are cheaper sites, but click on this link to see what I mean. The $500 I quoted above is quite a bit short. Firewood prices for full and half cords | BLW Firewood Seattle-Tacoma
Yes, my friend said the same thing. We asked for apple but the Wenatchee supplier was out. But much closer to you is sweet deal on Apple in Yakima. I believe it's carrying the same price. $150 for a cord of Apple. But it would probably run us another 100 miles to our round trip.
