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Losing faith in humanity

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  1. Screwloose

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    Hello everyone. I had originally thought 2018 was going to be better, but perhaps not........
    Early on in the summer I received a call from someone that I have known all my life, like a brother 50 year's. He had been in the hospital for 3 months waiting for a heart transplant and his 2 employees ran his company (a machine shop) into the ground. He asked me if there was anything I could do.
    I paid to get the utilities back on, bought parts and repaired the broken down machines. For 3 months I purchased material, supplied labor and delivered goods under his company name, just shy of $50 grand. Because we're settling up when he's back I foolishly repeatedly dismissed my wife's concerns because I had faith........ I've known him longer than anyone.......
    Well he got out of the hospital and as I was hitting the bottom financially I said I needed some money. I was informed that there was no money and our services were no longer required.
    Telling that to my wife sucked. Guys were holding a few paychecks for me......they knew him to....of course we will help they said.....
    We kept saying 2018 will be better
    Well today I get a call from a guy who says he is a metal artist and he wants to buy drops and remnants for his business. So 2 men show up and my son has worked out a deal for $600 of drops ECT. They are loaded up and the guy is getting the money out. My son turned his back and like Bo and Luke Duke they jumped in and took off. I was in the shop welding, my heart broke for him when he told me.
    2018 ha.
    Thank you for giving me an outlet for my frustrations
     
  2. Mwalsh9152

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    I hope they can track the pos thieves from today by his phone number.

    As for the "friend" personally I'd smear him to every person that he does business with and then laughingly pizz on the ashes....but then I'm a vindictive SOB.

    I hope your year turns around in a hurry!
     
  3. shaggy wood dump hoarder

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    Can't like that, sorry to hear. It's pretty hard to trust or have faith in anyone after an ordeal like that. Some pretty pathetic people out there. Just gotta keep doing what you do and learn from it.
     
  4. Screwloose

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    I'm hoping that the phone number tracks them but who knows. Hopefully police tech is up to the task.
    As for the other guy they never found a heart, he has a pump with a control box on his hip. I guess I just don't know what he must be going through and how I would react under the same circumstances.. his main customer followed me home so I'm going to make it back.
     
  5. shaggy wood dump hoarder

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    This is true with going through some tough times, did he at least show some guilt/remorse, any apology or anything if the sorts? Or just told you to kick rocks? If that was the case I'd have a hard time not putting a big rock right through his teeth! :mad:
    The big guy upstairs works in mysterious ways, glad to hear you gained something for your troubles!
    I had a rough patch with a friend I was supposed to do a job with this year as well, in short he came to me looking for help with a big job, about 10k as we initially figured, from the sounds of it it's about double that now. We figured out most initial details, material a few rough measurements, labor, travel, powder coat, everything we were supposed to do together, worked on the estimate for a few weeks, (lots of changes customer was hard to get ahold of and slow to answer questions) everything was great, he called said the check was dropped in the mail for down payment and we could start soon. 3 days pass, I get a text saying sorry I've decided I'm going to just do it myself.
    After helping the guy and his family through a couple very dark nights and never bringing it up again to make anything weird or anyone feel bad, I was pretty hurt. Lost a "good friend" out of that deal. I'm now cordial with him since we're neighbors but I'll never trust him again.
    10-20k might not be that big of a deal to some, but when it's side work, with plenty of potential to turn into more work, that's ladies and gentlemen, is your dagger:D
     
  6. Horkn

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    Both of those stories suck.

    All of mankind isn't like this though. Y'all know that. Look at some of the awesome stories of FHC generosity.

    Unfortunately you really need to guard yourself from getting ripped off. With sales of items, only load after being paid.
     
  7. Jack Straw

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    I think a lot about how you go about helping people who are in need. I guess you give what you don’t need or what you can afford without hurting your own finances. Nothing can hurt relationships more than money. I give what I can and just hope the recipient doesn’t take advantage. About 1/2 the people who are in need brought that on by bad decisions and laziness. Then there’s the other 1/2.
     
  8. ironpony

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    terrible to hear this, confirms my outlook on life. I only trust one person unconditionally, she married me. Outside of her I trust no one with our money. Now what I am saying is hard to explain, I will help anyone that needs it, I would remodel your house for you, I will not give you money. I will cut your gas, fix your car and pay for parts, I will not give you money. You need transportation to work? I will buy you a car, I will not lend you money. As my Dad always said when you write some one a check make sure to kiss it good bye because it is not coming back. make sense?

    Now what you did was very honorable in the situation but you should of drawn a line as to what you were willing to lose.
     
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    I always tell my wife to only give as much money to someone asking as you are willing to not.get back. Because it never happens.

    She had an old friend contact her on Facebook looking for a loan, and my wife, who would donate me right into living in a shelter if I'm not careful loaned her some money. I just laughed and said "you just paid $xxx to get that person out of your life"

    She told me I was wrong......but then they blocked her on FB and I just laughed my azz off.
     
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    More like B.S. artist...

    Both are very unfortunate stories that would taint me enough to be reluctant to help down the road without more scrutiny. Good on you for trying to help others.:yes:
     
  11. ironpony

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    Fortunately I inherited a sixth sense from my Mom, if I meet someone I know in 1 minute if I should have any dealing with them. I went against it once and that is the only time in my life I have been burned. Learned then and there not to do it again.
     
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    Sad situation. The old adage "friends and business never work" sure floats to the surface in this case. Another lesson learned while working on your "Master's Thesis" at the "University of Life".
     
  13. Jack Straw

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    What gets me pizzed is when I was young :BrianK: people were embarrassed to ask for assistance, now most feel entitled. “Hey, I worked a few years back in the 80’s, I’ve earned welfare!” :picard:
     
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    I don't mix money and friends or family unless I don't expect to ever get it back.

    You did a good thing for a bad person and that doesn't always work out the way you want it to.

    I understand you've know this guy forever, but when a man is on death's doorstep don't expect them to behave the same way they always have.
     
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    Maybe it’s God testing you to see if you’re willing to help and God Watching the receiver to see what they do with the gift.
     
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    These stories make me feel very sad as to how the world is becoming! :( But on a positive note you are doing your part by being good Christian men! Everything always comes back around. I am always willing to help people and my wife gets mad a lot of times because when I need the help and I call on the people that I've helped they can never or won't do it.

    I remind her that there are also may times that I've needed help didn't ask and other people that I have not helped yet give me a hand. And when I say I owe you, now what do you need ne to do and they say nothing we're good. That, I tell her is how it comes back around. In short one person may screw you but another stranger ends up making it right!

    Ok sorry rant done. Just keep the faith in God and humanity there is still a lot of good people out there. You'll get what's owed to you for the good that you've done and they get what they deserve for what they have not done!
     
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    I am either doing a really good job and he wants me to get an A or I am failing miserably and he lets me keep trying. I try to always do what is right and if I get nothing in return I have to look at it as I did the right thing.
     
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    There are some terrible stories and sadly, I expect many of us could tell more. Yes, I too have been stung, more than once. I also remember when I had just about completely given up on humanity. However, I got over it and think I became a better person for it.

    Then there are the times when you really get down and out, almost out for the count, and so many come to your rescue. That happened to me recently and I'll never forget it, nor will I ever forget those who helped.
     
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    Don't get be wrong, I'm over my end, I don't let much get me down for very long, I carry on my normal life, but I don't just forget such actions. But in a world that thrives on negativity, it can be harder sometimes than others. It's why I refuse to watch any news, there's rarely any good spirited news on and it's just a downer.
    That's why I love this forum! The complete opposite of the news, lots of good heart warming stories from good people!
     
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    People just suck life is a rat race anymore if they would realise we are all in it together the world would be better off well I hope the rest of 18 is blessed for you
     
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