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Odd things that happen when you burn wood.

Discussion in 'Everything Else (off topic)' started by FatBoy85, Dec 6, 2017.

  1. FatBoy85

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    Don’t we all have the scars to prove it???
     
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    Is there any hope can I be cured
     
  3. BDF

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    I don't think that is a real word. Maybe you mean necrophilia? No, wait..... I mean narcolepsy. Well, I am not sure but I think of of them is bad and the other is worse. A nice wood fire may be helpful for one of them though.... maybe both?

    A long time ago, my father gave me some really sage advice: he said to me "Remember, son, never....."...... wait, was it 'never' or was it 'always'?

    Brian

    We must remain ever- vigilant or a thread like this one could go down in a heartbeat (Easy Boys!).

     
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    Hey, that is ME! I am 'that guy'! For years, I used short gauntlet, leather, work gloves to load the stove and had all those red lines, some of them peeling and leaking, from the edges of the wood stove. Then a friend of mine bought me long gauntlet wood stove gloves either out of sympathy or in self- defense 'cause he could not stand looking at the open wounds anymore. Either way, I was cured!

    And I think for that situation you really want a psychiatrist: a psychologist will try to determine the underlying causes for forearm burning, bed wetting and so on but a psychiatrist will lurch for the prescription pad and load a person with this problem on sufficient drugs that he / she no longer cares, and the infection(s) stay located to the arms only and don't become systemic. Ah, the good ole' American script pad..... almost nothing it cannot mask or cover up with apathy.

    That, and the fact that burn creme comes in caulking tube dispensers have really turned my life around.

    Brian

     
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    I don't think so. All you can really do is try to manage it until spring, when it usually disappears.:D
     
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    Nothing odd really, just a soothing heat that gets into the bones.
     
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    That's it... :BrianK:... napattackitis ... :rofl: :lol:
     
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    More money in my own pocket instead of the owner of the propane company!
     
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    Do you think the fan makes a difference? People have suggested cutting holes in the floor but I can’t bring myself to do it.
     
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    yes!
    Its not a small fan. I run it on low. And it moves some serious air. I have it screwed to the floor joists at the bottom of the steps close to the front of the house, and I can feel the air blowing into the bathroom at the back of the house.

    My return vents in the floor are open into the stove room. I have a small duct fan in one vent. Doesn't do a lot, but it moves air.
     
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    Wife wears less clothes when the stove is cranked up. True story.
     
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    why not?
    cut a rectangle hole and set a grill in it. An 8x10 grill will let a lot of cold air off the floor down to the stove room and the warm air will flow up faster.
     
  13. Warner

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    I did in my last house. During the home inspection for the sale the guy noted the hole and that it was a fire hazard. And most of all a code violation. It wasn’t a big deal I filled the hole in and put new Flooring down. In this house it’s all hardwood floors we arnt planning on going anywhere soon but they won’t be as easy to fix
     
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    Our place happens to have 3- 8"x10" floor grates. One is almost right above the stove in the basement. Just to test how well it would work, I ran a 6" duct from the top of the stove up to that floor grate. While it does a decent job of moving some heat upstairs, it could be better. I have a 6" muffin fan that I think would be perfect to move the heated air at a better rate. The other 2 grates are at the other end of the house, and work nicely as cold air returns.
     
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    Yeah, going through that right now myself. Even outside chases along but not exposed to the inside of the house (there is a wall between the chase interior and the house interior) must have a fire- stop at each floor level. Open holes of any kind between floors violates code and encourages fire to jump into the next floor.

    I <think> the way any air transfer between floors has to be done is with ducting and a heat fusible link that keeps a damper open. So in the event of a fire, the damper drops and closes off the air, and fire, flow upward.

    Not my world, I just live here and dem dare's da' rules. At least where I live.

    Brian

     
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    Hmm. I’ll have to look into the fused damper. Normally I’m not afraid to bend the rules but fire safety isn’t something I want to mess around with when there are little people involved. And there are the insurance issues.
     
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    Not quite sure about this, but I have heard that the holes cut through the floor (from different level to different level) are indeed a code violation sue to the potential of spreading fires more quickly.

    One way around this would be to install a fire damper in the hole (passage) between the floors. If there is a fire, it would melt a fusible link and shut the opening immediately.

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    Yeah, it is one of those things that while I can see the reasoning for preventing them, I do wonder how much of an issue that really is anyway. ?? Let's face it, there is 'real' safety and then there is 'hey, let's make a lot of rules that are not really worth much' safety. And once a safety organization is formed, they keep chugging out safety rules whether they are real and valid or not.

    OFFTOPIC: only because I recently had my entire house 'open' for re-construction, I put sprinklers on the first floor and will also install them on the second floor. There is no code or requirement for residential building sprinklers so I am basically free to do whatever I want. But then the other shoe fell and there is a catch: I am on city water, being fed from a main in the street. Sprinkler code (not residential or commercial, just code that applies to ALL sprinklers) requires that they not be attached to a 'billable' water supply. Which means I cannot attach them to the city water already in the house. The reason is that if one does not pay the water bill, the water provider turns the valve in the street to turn off the water to the house and would then starve the sprinklers. So if installing sprinklers on a city water supply, it is a requirement that a second feed be installed from the street exclusively for the sprinklers that cannot be shut off because there is never any bill generated. Now of course that would cost me thousands or tens of thousands of dollars and so that just ain't gonna' happen. But I still installed sprinklers and will connect them to the 'wrong' supply; if an inspector happens to see it, I will have to sever the water connection to the sprinklers or risk having my C.O. pulled for not meeting code. So what this all means is that rather than putting in sprinklers, which very well could save an occupant or more likely, a fireman's life with a 99.999% likelihood that there will actually be water at the sprinklers when it is needed, code forces me to have NO sprinklers which are of course off 100% of the time. It makes no sense at all, whatsoever. But like I said, not my world, I just live here and so have to play the game as designed and governed by others..... I have decided to 'break the rules' I guess because I think it the much, much safer condition to have sprinklers than not, and who knows, maybe someday it will save someone's bacon. My children are gone but someday, someone else will own this house and maybe, just maybe, those sprinklers will buy a little time to get little Johnny or little Jenny out of the house in the event of a fire. Maybe they will do nothing more than providing a little more time to save a pet or two of someone's. Whatever, I have installed them and will plumb them as the flagrant law- breaking scoundrel that I am. :D but also :picard:

    Brian

     
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    Now this here is what happens when you skim through the posts without reading them entirely! Ya beat me to it, fair and square, BDF !
     
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    I pretty much wear shorts and a T-shirt in the house all year long. Wood stove keeps the downstairs nice and toasty where it does not matter. 75ish usually. My wife will be fully dressed and still be cold. Especially if it's snowing. Mind you if I go out, I'll throw on some jeans, heavy socks, long sleeve shirt jacket, gloves and a hat.

    Airflow in our house is not good. I still need to try the small box fan blowing into the living room to see it will push some of that warm air into the kitchen. It would be even better if I could just run the air handler for the furnace which is 10 feet from the wood stove. It would pull in that heat and spread it throughout the house.


    Jason from RI
     
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