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Where to place the BK King in the shop???

Discussion in 'Modern EPA Stoves and Fireplaces' started by ksks, Oct 24, 2017.

  1. ksks

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    Looking for advice on where to place the stove in a new shop. Still in process of putting this all together. Should be ready for the stove in the Spring.

    Will be putting workbench and saws in the back. Vehicles on the left side. It is 40'x40'.

    Would be nice to sit and watch the fire, but ???
    Primary consideration is keeping it warm.

    I'm thinking on the wall to the left of the cabinet, where the little white chair is.

    How much space between the stove and the bare wall?

    Should I put it closer to the wall and put something on the wall?

    Southern MO. Fully insulated. OSB walls. 12 foot metal ceiling. Concrete floor.

    Thanks for the site. I've been enjoying it!

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    The owners manual will have the wall clearance listed. You can usually cut that clearance in half (to a point) by installing metal or some non-combustible up as a heat shield...it needs to be spaced off the wall at least 1" using non combustible spacers...and left up off the floor 1" also, so it can "flow". A few sheets of galvanized corrugated roofing would look good there for a heat shield...easy enough to space it out using short pieces of pipe screwed fast with deck or drywall screws...
     
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    Nice ideas. Thanks for the reply.
     
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    It will probably be influenced most by the chimney location. Are you going through the roof or up an outside wall? If it is through the roof, you want it away from any nearby trees and the roof peak. Also want to go straight up while avoiding cutting rafters or trusses if you can. If you go up the wall, consider aesthetics, overhangs, and overall height.

    Can we talk about your ceiling? I am considering the same thing in my garage. Would you do it again? Was it economical vs. plywood?
     
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    At least you have your kindling ready..... looks like a good place as youll want something near your seating area.
     
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    Nice shop. How fast is it filling up?

    Without building a separate room for the wood stove, you would not be able to get insurance for the building here. Hope you have enough room for a partition wall.
     
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    Careful with that. Only if the owner's manual specifies that a wall shield reduces the clearance requirements can you use that trick. The original heat shield reduction scheme is only to be applied to the generic NFPA clearance requirements for unlisted things like burn barrels. You must install the modern listed stove per the owner's manual and 99% of those do not allow for a reduction by adding a wall shield. Certainly not the BK.

    I also did this type of ceiling and then blew R-60 of cellulose on top of it. I love it. Super easy to install using a sheetrock lift, no mudding, taping, painting, and it doesn't echo like you might think. The gloss white reflects a lot of light.

    I had to switch insurance companies to another national insurer. It was because of the shop being an "outbuilding" and no solid fuel heaters were allowed with State Farm. Had nothing to do with the overhead doors. My shop stove was also permitted by the AHJ and inspected. I love having a stove in the shop!



    Holy crap ksks. We built the same shop. I'm 14' walls though and no windows. I'm at the same stage as you and I plan to fill the expansion joints in the floor with self leveling sealant, clear coat the floor, and then install black baseboards and trim. The stove went in during construction since it was cold! I like your furniture.

    I insulated the slab and walls too and even put in the tubes for radiant heat but the stove works really well.
     

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    How did you get all the white stickers off of the OSB?
     
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    Putty knife.
     
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    They're stuck on REALLY good and super thin. They would likely peel off like car tabs on a license plate, you know, shredded.

    Heat gun? I'm scared to light the whole wall on fire!
     
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    I would agree with Unhdsm . Go where can you put the chimney for proper height ect.


    No stickers on it here that I've seen.
     
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    It was summer when I removed mine; probably a bit warmer back then.

    Yeah a heat gun like a hair dryer would be all you need, I'm thinking. Warm it up a bit and then scrape away!
     
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    I'll try it! Sooner the better since I'm sure the OSB will be fading and under that sticker will be unfaded.

    Here's another progress shot of the OSB and the weird wall construction method in my pole barn.
     

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    Good ideas guys.

    I plan to put the pipe straight thru the roof. I can easily shift the stove around couple feet to miss rafters, etc.

    No trees close by. I cut down a bunch before the shop went up. Didn't want any storm damage potential.

    How close can I place the pipe to the peak of the roof?


    I've got a whole trash bin+ full of kindling from splitting all the leftover 2x.


    Actually I didn't compare the price with plywood. This is what the builder recommended and I went with it. I really like the look and it REALLY brightens up the whole shop. He put it up very quickly with a lift. I haven't noticed any noise problems.



    haha. They do look alike!

    I hadn't thought about making a pedestal for the stove. That's interesting. What was you reasoning? Benefits?

    I can't recall if there were stickers on the other side. I didn't want the dark printing showing, so I turned the OSB around and put the back side out. Still some goofy markings on the wood.
     
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    It has to be at least 2 ft higher than any peak within 10 feet- so you have options as long as you add length.
     
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    ...and at least 3' above the roof where it come through...
     
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    I got a permit for my stove and a requirement was that the thing sat 18" off the ground. Something about gas fumes. It is pretty convenient to have it up high. Better view, easier loading, I suppose it is safer.

    The shiny side of OSB has the black printing which I thought was better looking that the dull side of the OSB that has all those colored lines on it for who knows what. There's no wrong way I suppose. The only thing I thought about doing was spraying it with poly to darken, seal, and hopefully retain the color instead of the inevitable fade that will occur. I've been told that the OSB drinks up a lot of whatever you apply to it. I also caulked every horizontal seam as I assembled it.
     
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    Those are nailing lines...spaced at 16 and 24" IIRC
     
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    I put the smooth side out in my garage and then gave it a coat of flat white (used as primer) and then another coat of gloss white.

    Very pleased with results.
     
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    I was told that Kilz paint works good as a primer/sealer on OSB...
     
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