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Todays gas cans and spouts designed by Washington DC fools.

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  1. trail twister

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    Bought a new diesel fuel can for the kubota a couple weeks ago. What a GAWD AWFUL MESS it is, Locking cap, locking spout and the whole bloody mess as my brit friends say.

    First step was to remove that cap lock, Still don't know why it is needed. Second step was to pitch that spout that locks and won't unlock with out a bunch of fiddleing and spilled fuel out side the tractors tank.
    I bought a off set funnel to fill the tractors tank.

    Not wanting to buy another can designed by a bunch of polititions I decided to repurpose a old 6.5 gallon gas can I had stopped useing because a small plastic flip cap vent had broke.

    I decided I could pull a tire valve stem thru that hole. so after useing my inside calipers I painted the top silver the sides yellow and the bottom black I installed the valve.

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    Worked so slick I drilled a hole in the new yellow plastic can and installed a valve in it.

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    After I got it finished I said to my self why didn't you take step pictures and show others how to do same.
    Pictures are not the best as I forgot to set the camera for close ups, but you get the idea. Decided to do one of my plastic gas cans that don't so much leak but are slow to empty because gas is flowing one way and air in the other way thru the same spout.

    The can and hole.

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    I threaded 14 ga electrical wire in the hole and later see the reason for the wire useage. reached in with a stiff wire and grabbed the end.

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    The electral wire threads thru the valve with out any fiddleing around, Is easy to put a twist on the end to hold the valve yet pull out once your ready to pull the valve all the way into place.

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    When you get it to this point you can grab it with your fingers and insert the tire valve tool to pull it the rest of the way thru. I have a couple of these handy tools, clean up threads inside and out of the valve, insert and remove the shrader valves and worked great for this.

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    At this point apply some dish soap, I keep a couple bottles in the shop, dollar store stuff for a buck and cleans my hands of some really black grease. Then pull the valve in place.

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    finished.
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    Of course I do not use a 5 gallon can for filling my saws, leaf blower or string trimmer. For those I use older before Washington designed gas cans, cans with a flex spot and normal vent caps.

    Also for filling the tractor I saw a recent you tube of a fellow who had a inch clear hose, sat the can on the loader arms and jiggled that hose and was able to nearly empty the can by siphon action. I may try that some time.

    :D Al
     
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  2. yooperdave

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    Can't stand those safety spouts on the fuel containers now-a-days.

    "Thank you for protecting us form ourselves" category.....
     
  3. Mwalsh9152

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    a friend of mine showed me that trick! I have one of the old preban gas cans with the flexi spout that slides in and out that I would use for the saw, but when it would get warm in the shed, it would push the fuel up through the spout and then leak out of the can all over the place.
     
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    OP made his own kit, but the above is what I have. Highly recommended! I salvaged several old cans with broken or missing spouts and refitted a couple of the CARB POS cans with them. Honestly, I spill much more fuel using the EPA spouts than I do with a regular old can & spout.

    Just remember all, if you add your own vent, make sure it can be closed air tight so the fuel will not draw moisture from the air (ethanol blends).
     
  6. HDRock

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    I put tire valves on a couple of old plastic cans I have cuz mice chewed the plastic vent caps off
     
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    I have found a modern 2 gallon can that works well for my needs - but I'm not putting gas into a vehicle with it either so I'm good with it. Bought another style last year, a5 gallon can, and found it impossible to use for my mower or snow blower (heck, I never figured out how to use it and ended up fubarring it). Now I just fill it at the station then fill up my smaller containers for transferring to combustion engine devices.

    I should add that I usually had a hard time with the old style cans because, well, I'm a spaz and couldn't get the spout screwed on correctly, so I would have gas sloshing all over my vehicle - much less when I was trying to pour it out. I guess that is why they made the safety cans - all my fault :faint:
     
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    I have a couple No Spill cans and like them.
    No spill Jill ain't bad either :)
     
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    I doubt too many politicians could design much of anything beyond words on paper. Manufacturers have come up with some unique solutions to "zero" pollution mandates though.
     
  10. Stinny

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    Jill was great... I thought there'd be some sort of gas can in the video... :whistle:
     
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    Jill was great... I thought there'd be some sort of gas can in the video... :whistle:[/QUOTE]
    I saw those nice cans she has :D
     
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    I saw those nice cans she has :D[/QUOTE]
    :rofl: :lol:
     
  13. trail twister

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    When you buy a fuel can be it for gasoline or diesel you shold not have to buy a spout to make it a workable can.

    As for the summer heat causeing gasd to over flow and make a mess, don't fill the can so full. Leave some air space.


    :D Al
     
  14. Backwoods Savage

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    On the new ones, I just unscrew the thing and use a large funnel. Stupid things....
     
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    In my experience, the best "gas cans" are actually used 5 gallon pails of hydraulic oil. They have the extendable spout and a 1/4 inch lag bolt driven into the top of the lid opposite of the spout makes for a leak proof, but vented gas can by just unscrewing the lag bolt.

    I have about 100 of them. When you own a skidder, you go through plenty of hydraulic oil...and engine oil (it has a 2 stroke detroit diesel engine), and automatic transmission fluid, and...
     
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    There is an idea I may try.
     
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    Found my favorite gas cans when we cleaned out my father's garage. Don't know when they were put back there since I don't remember ever seeing him use them. The house was built sometime just after the civil war and I think the "garage" was added in the 20s or 30s. There were three of them and they hold 3 gallons each...

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  18. Erik B

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    KaptJaq That is a great find if they don't have any rust inside of them.:thumbs:
     
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    I've had them since 2011 and the insides of all of them still look freshly galvanized(?) (clean gray metal appearance). I don't use them for long term storage, just to haul fuel for the generator or other 4-cycle motors. What's left at the end of the week gets dumped in one of the cars and the cans are left to air out.

    KaptJaq
     
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  20. Erik B

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    That is great. I bought a couple of metal gas cans at a farm auction and they were badly rusted inside. Should have looked first.
     
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