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Just bought my first JD lawn tractor

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  1. Chris F

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    A D140. Anyone else here own one of these? Are they reliable?
    Sure is purdy and fun to drive!

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    I don't have that model...but I do have a John Deere GT275 lawn tractor...bought the new in 1998, so is it reliable? Lol...yessir, 19 years of mowing grass in Alabama (I mow once a week, every week, for roughly 6-7 months each year). Great mower


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    Looks like the one they tore up in a few years up at the office
     
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    Congratulations. The weak link on any newer lawn tractor is the hydro. I'm pretty sure the D140 has a K46 hydro. They are known to be weak so only use it for mowing. Don't pull a trailer or any other attachment.
     
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    Stay off steep hills also
     
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    Yeah, I did a K46 in a Husqvarna and the guy was mowing a steep pond dam with it. He had the machine to the dealer 2 times and both times they put a belt on it and within 10 minutes it would act up again. I could not talk him into getting a bigger machine.
     
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    We had a JD rider that was about 25to 30 years old or so , that thing was stout.

    A neighbor at the farm has a huge JD rider it's probably close to 30 years old. Must be a huge 48" deck, that thing has all kinds of power.

    Those older ones are great machines. I think there 2x what these new plastic crap mowers that they all make now.
     
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    Thanks for all the replies. Looks like I'll have to fix the old one for the real work and use the new one for the majority of the flat lawn.
    The stamped front axle carrier had cracked all over and pretty much shattered. I'll have to strip the mower right down to the frame so I can flip it over to weld it properly. A good project for the future.
     
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    I have a 20 year old Troy Bilt 20 GTX garden tractor.
    Was a Bolen's design and weighs about 1000 pounds. Thought about upgrading but there's nothing to "upgrade" to... It's a tank!
    Thought about looking for a JD 318 but they still fetch some big cash. Even in poor shape...
     
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    What was the old machine?

    Those D-series units are still the pick of the litter in their price ranges I think. Cub Cadet has gotten much better and Husqvarna has always been good competition for these and the X300 series above them.

    The D-series is built on what originally was called the "Lightning Platform" back around 2003. The only major changes since then have been the hood styling and the machine has proven itself over time as I still see plenty of the original L series models in garages everywhere. Those have not been manufactured since 2005. As long as the tractor is used for its true intended purpose, they last a long time and provide a comfortable operating experience. Due to this long production run and the fact that HD/Lowe's have been selling these things by the gross, new and used parts are plentiful and affordable. I've seen more than one instance of an older unit donating an engine or a mower deck to a newer unit used in a rough application.

    The weakest link of any of these tractors is the transmission. They are not designed to pull ground-engaging implements like tillers, blades, plows, cultivators etc. And moving an 800lb cart & a 200lb+ operator up the 25 degree slope in your backyard is also a lot to ask as the hydro has no built in protection from overheating/loading. These days, with 20+ HP v-twin engines being so ubiquitous on these units, the operator would never really know how badly they were stressing the hydro. You can floor the pedal and the engine provides at least 4x the brute force required to shove the load up the hill, losses in the trans be dammed!! :rofl: :lol: It's a bit like pulling a semi with a pickup in that it will do so slowly, carefully, and in a low gear. But the driveline components are not sized appropriately to do so frequently or at high speeds..

    Make tall grass short with it. And it's certainly capable of towing a cart or other rolling load up to 500lbs or so around the yard. Reduce load and/or pedal input accordingly for tougher terrain. And enjoy it! They are great machine's that get an unfair rap for being cheap because they are frequently held to the same standard as their ancestors (which were a lot more $$) and modern equipment that costs at least 2x.
     
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    And they are not cheap to fix either. The 318s are legends for sure, but the mowing decks on all but the latest units are pretty weak and the Onan engines are expensive to find parts for. Plus, attachments are also expensive, relatively hard to find, and they do not always connect as elegantly as they do for the later machines.

    You can probably find a JD425/445 for similar $$ and they are a big upgrade over the 318s. Can be had for cheap if you do not give a rip about cosmetics.

    However, I would hard pressed to turn down a 322 just for the collector value! (3 cyl Yanmar Gas, runs like a Singer and lasts forever!)
     
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    Old parts for the old one ought to be cheap as old mowers are all around for cheap money.
     
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    Didn't they also put a kohler in a 318 or was that the 316?

    My buddy has a 322 with ruegg (sp?) 3pt hitch. He's got 2 grand in it, but its ultra bad azz.
     
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    I wish I knew what that one my neighbor at the farm has. It's older all Steel rider. Has to be a 48" cut and probably a 5ft or so. We were watching as his grandson was cutting his front. It was pretty tall that thing would just just it no problem but when he came to a really thick spot going up hill it bogged way down and started pouring black smoke and just wouldn't cut out then finially did. Looked just like a diesel would. He was like a 12 year old kid he was teaching, so he didn't know to slow or pull the deck up or cut it off.

    I will try and remember when I talk to him next or see it to try and figure out what it was. But I bet it's 25 years old
     
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    322s are just mo' better. :dex: 2 grand ain't bad for what it's capable of!

    The 300 series was split into an early series and a later series. And even then, Deere recycled a few model numbers to help clarify things. :picard:

    Later 300 series machine's: (striped decals on the hood)

    316 - Kohler single cylinder thumper 16HP, rare, only 1yr production.
    316 - Onan twin, 18 HP IIRC?, basically a 318 with some features deleted like the remote SCVs.
    317 - predecessor to the 318, Kohler flat-twin - 17HP, early engines died due to serious oiling system design issues. Series II engines were tanks, but the damage was done.....
    318 - early units had smaller Onan B series engines. Somewhere along the way they were upgraded to P series units.
    322 - 3 cyl liquid cooled gas Yanmar engine.
    330 - 3 cyl Yanmar diesel
    332 - 3 cyl Yanmar diesel, added some nice features over the 330 like power steering and individual rear brakes.
     
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    I have an L130 with 884 hours on it. Trans has had oil changed several times. It mowes about 1/2 acre then barley moves. I take a break and work at somthing else. In 3 or 4 hours its ready to mow again. Something with the oil or pump overheating i think
     
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    That's sucks. Does sound like it's overheated.
     
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    Still like this old beast - 1975 (last year of the series I believe) Model 110 with 10HP Kohler.

    Parents bought it in 1985,replaced a few minor parts since then.Starter & solenoid,fuel line/a little carb work,several belts for mower deck,at least 2 pulleys,replacement cheap aftermarket seat needs taped up a little now.Finally had to replace left front tire in summer 2014.But no major work has been needed since it was bought from a local rural dealer that closed almost 20 years ago.

    Its a tank,I've pulled a 1500 lb log on what little flat area is on that 10 acres,routinely pull 500+ lbs in that 50+ yr old homemade kart + my 175lb lardazz up the steep slopes around on a few main trails up to the processing area.

    Plenty ofpower for what I need (though I'm always dreaming about going in debt & PICT0029.JPG DSC03382.JPG buying a decent used smaller gas skidsteer loader with rubber tracks & grapple claw.....) Even have a 12 volt 2000lb winch that quick mounts to the plate where the ball hitch is used.Sometimes I think about getting some chains for the rear tires,since those highway tires aren't the best especially when the ground is muddy,wet leaves underneath or a couple inches snow/ice.But I just wait for a dry spell & get as much done in a few days as my schedule allows.

    new small winch on John Deere 110.JPG 1975 John Deere110 & old dump cart.JPG

    So this does the job good enough after all these years....Nice thing is it gets in so many tight spots between trees & elsewhere that a full size pickup cant even get close to.
     
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    I have the same tractor, 5 years old. You will enjoy it!!!! Enjoy!
     
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    A Craftsman LT4000 from the early nineties. 18 hp twin, 42"cut. Belt driven, no hydro. Everything is loose and worn on it but it still does the job well. It was drizzly here today so I went out and stripped everything off the frame and pressure washed it. I'll take it into work this week and weld it back up.

    The tranny is what worries me most on these new ones after reading about them. I don't have any hills and cut around two acres a week. No implements or trailers will be towed. The Craftsman will continue to tow the woodsplitter from the garage to the logpile. The Deere is too wide to get between some of the trees so the old one will still do that job. Same goes for going over that rocky area where the damage occured.

    I was only on it for half an hour yesterday to finish up the lawn after the old one broke and it's a lovely machine to drive. I'm taking all the warnings about heat to heart because I don't want to spend this kind of money only to kill it prematurely.

    Thanks for the optimism, I'm feeling better about this purchase already.
     
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