I am currently working on getting something closer for you guys up in that area - I will keep you updated on my progress!
Good Evening Chris, In Torrington area, so definitely will be interested in a Bristol, Thomaston, or Torrington local source that will be stocking and able to deliver product and priced fairly. Dealer in New Milford, you already visited, but a bit too far to go for picking up the DF and we're outside their delivery area. New to the site myself, so welcome. Have viewed here many times before joining. Gained some useful hints and also product feedback. both of the pellets and brewski's
Good Evening to All, and thank you for the many welcomes. Have taken a lot of what many of you have provided for information to narrow down what pellets to try, in terms of softwoods. for the Wiseway I purchased at the end of the season. To all that have taken the time to test and report on the various products out there, thank you for the information your brought here to share. I have setup and currently running a Wiseway GW-2014 non electric gravity fed pellet stove, that I purchased new at the end of the heating season (well, was suppose to be end of winter) Have run it a little bit and had a few minor teething problems, along with the learning curve, from having run my wood stove for 13 years. But have seen and learned enough, to narrowed down to be being mostly a fuel issue. Using a true Douglas fir pellet should clear things up. Just at what price . Stove was developed and was run with DF when it was being manufactured on the west coast (OR.) Some of the Softwoods I have tried seen ok as far as heat output, but the density of the ash left on the secondary burn plate and clinkers in the burn basket, affect how long the stove burns before it drops in temperature and how long of a duration you have. Doing trial burns with the different fuels has removed a fair number of products to consider as my primary go to pellet. Hoping to get a few samples of the different Douglas fir that are in the area. Problems is not too many choices on my neck of the woods. Some of different DF I have an interest in, put me outside their delivery area of those selling. Hopefully the Okies will be available close to home and be similar to what the originals were based from the reviews of the previous availability of the Okanagan Douglas Fir. The pricing will be the final determination. Weighing on going with the Olympus DF, but again not local, but in CT at least. But winter is not here yet, so we have a little time to get them before things dry up. Going to pellet fueled stove, my yard has finally gotten cleaned up this year, of all the racks I had for stacking the firewood I use to burn, before getting the Wiseway stove. Typically went through 3 to 4 cord a season. Old Age (feels like it anyways at almost 62) and injuries catching up to me, so getting away from processing firewood. Now I will have a little more free time to bicycle and hike a little more , so I can have a few more beers and not have it show. I think that means a healthy life style??? Plan on selling the wood stove and put that towards getting more pellets. Looking to have having 3 tons put up at start of the season. Already have a 6 foot run in basement for stacking the 3 tons. One advantage of this stove (and any pellet stove for that matter), is running on pellets, rather than my wood stove, provides a constant heat output over a longer duration, than stoking and reloading the wood stove. So, I should be able to get the house cozy, and then throttle back to maintain without filling the firebox. Stove is located in a walk out basement and having the concrete foundation heat soaked makes for a world of difference on how comfortable the house is on the cold days and my body joints as well. Well, I've blabbed enough for one post. Good evening to all
Ah - sorry about that! I should have an update for you within the next month of a dealer in a more convenient area for you. In the meantime, please let me know if I can provide you with further resources. Also, I will be hosting "pellet-giveaways" throughout the north east come July/Aug/Sept and will post updates on the forum or you can follow our Facebook page. If you are in the area, let me know and I will set aside some bags for you to test out.
Long time wood stove burner myself , that made the switch to pellets and it's been Great Interesting choice in stove , I don't think anyone else on the forum has one . I think many of us will be interested in how well it performs for you . Beer is good
This is what it says on SIB's website: MWP Blend $219 MWP Softies $259 (free delivery) La Crete $279 Spruce Pointe $279 (free delivery) Fusion $274 Okanagan $309
Agreed on all counts. I am also unaware of anyone else on this forum that has a wiseway. I have been interested in that unit since it was announced, so very curious to hear how it works out for you. Flyer, which products have you tried so far?
Good Evening Chris, Thank you for the offer and I will definitely keep an eye out for your next events in my area. I don't do facebook, but will check it periodically or have the Mrs. check while she's on.
Good Evening, They have a learning curve and fuel type/quality has a marked effect on how the stove runs and for how long Good evening, sorry my computer wigged out and I lost what I had started. Hard drive going, so its time for a new confuser I think. Anyhoot, the Wiseway is interesting and has a learning curve. Certainly when they started to be sold on the East coast is when some of the teething pains started for having them out in the market. Fuel typed being used here in the NE (hardwood versus the Doug Fir that was the common fuel source out west where stove was developed ) brought in variables not seen out west in any numbers. Input was given to Gary and the Company by those in the Northeast ,to work on solutions to make it a viable product. Info was shared in what they learned along the way and it prompted me as being an alternative to replace my wood stove and still not use electricity to power a stove. Think of it as a Rocket stove that is pellet fed and radiates heat like a steel plate stove. I'm just trying to absorbed it all and tweak the idiosyncrasies before the real heating season comes around again. Pretty much learning the various interactions and have determined the only variable left to narrow down now is running a true 100% Douglas fir. This is for the heat potential as well lower ash and ash composition, so as to get the maximum possible extended burn times. With my work schedule and travel times 1hr to 1.1 hrs drive to work, and 1.5 hrs for the ride home, will have to shuffle when I shut down and do cleaning of the stove for the extended burn times. Stove has a 60 pound hopper that gravity feed the pellets to a secondary feed chute that fills the feed tube directly above the burn basket. The Wiseway is a natural draft pellet stove, so in that respect it has to be operated like a wood stove, but uses pellets for its fuel source. Poor draft, poor operating stove, that simple. Too much draft, run too hot and have a higher fuel consumption. I'm on that cusp with running almost 27 feet of metalbestos pipe to the peak from the basement. But I have very positive draft and have never had smoke roll back during any time I have shut down the Wiseway. It takes about an hour from the time you close the supply hopper feed door, till the fuel in the fed chutes and feed tube are burned off. As far as what fuel I have tried, they have all been softwoods. Vermont Wood Pellets, LaCretes, Logik-e premium soft wood, Easy Blaze softwood, and Purcell ("Specially Formulated Fir Blend" which is not the current product that's suppose to be 100% Doug Fir). They all were able to get the stove to over 700 degrees indicated on the temp gauge located at the exit of the stove. Both the Vermonts and the Logik-e softwood had the smaller pellets sizes and this equated to faster drop of pellets from the burn basket to the secondary burn plate, which is a good thing. I believed that with conventional pellet stove this is also a positive attribute as it reduces the auger binding that occurs when there are longer pellets being introduced. With the Wiseway, what varied was the density and volume of ash that collected on the secondary burn plate. This also changed if you were trying to run the stove at a lower temperature. Unlike a traditional wood stove, the Draft slide of the Wiseway works opposite, as it is after the combustion process. Fully closed and the stove will burn the hottest, opening the draft slide introduces cooler room air after the burn chamber and this cools the exiting flow/rising heat. It's one of those things where seeing and doing reduces the volumes you would have to write to explain it. Enough to say, that for my intent of having an overnight burn and minimal ash build up, Douglas Fir is the way to go. The other fuels,when burning on high produce good heat in this stove, just that after several hours, if you don't clear the secondary and empty the ash pan, the heat output will drop until it is cleared and with some of the fuels tried, clinkers built up in the burn basket, which restricted air flow through the burn basket and this meant that pellets weren't dropping out of the burn basket and onto the secondary burn plate fast enough the keep the heat up. The pellets burn in the burn basket and gasfiy the solid fuel, the heated air from the secondary burn plate helps burn the gases before they exit the burn tube. What's nice about the Wiesway (and in part other Pellet stoves), is that I can run a stove at a fairly constant temp without the temp swings you would have with working a wood stove like the Englander NCL-30 wood stove I have replaced with the Wiseway. Though as far as wood stove go, the large firebox of the NCL-30 was nice for loading up before heading to bed. Plenty of glowing coals in the am. Rake them out, shovel out the bulk of the ash, load in some wood and off to work I went. But, my body is getting tired of the wood handling and then the other associated issues with cord wood. So.... an alternative was found. Not sure I will be able to run 24/7, but we'll figure out a schedule if needed to shut down- cool down, clean and then relight the Wiseway. Typically with my setup can go from the starting process to 700 degrees in about 6 to 7 minutes and this is with starting from preheating the stove before opening the feed hopper. Not to shabby.
I think you can view it without being a member? If I see something close to us, I'll post the details here.
Sterling, Paul here from the Wiseway board. I spoke at great length with Brian from House of Warmth. He even got off the phone with me to call Doug Middleton of Northern Warmth to enquire about their new Doug Fir Supreme. It is Brian's impression that the Okanagan Doug Fir and the Northern Supreme are the same thing. I am at a loss. The old Okie DF used to come from the Bear Mountain facility in OR. That's where the new NW DFS is said to be coming from. Meanwhile, Brian said the new Okie DF is from "just down the road from the Bear Mountain facility. I just wish there wasn't such BS involved with all of this and I wish I felt better about who to believe. I'm not really crazy about spending $1400-1500 on a product I don't feel that confident about. AND, it's not like I'm going to fire up my stove to test two different DF's when it's 85 degrees out and humid as hell. Anyway, Brian at HoW can get me the Okie DF for $360/ton and the NW DFS for $375. Meanwhile, Brian also said that it's likely that CT Pellets will have the Okie stuff once they reopen after their vacation.
Welcome to the Show my friend , there was a ton of BS and confusion going on with the DF's and me thinks some of it was on purpose
Welcome to the board! I beleive the "new" American Bio Okie Doug Fir contained BM's that may have been bagged at Upton. Same place the NW are bagged. Now that NW are using the BM pellets again I think there was a conflict of interest and the "new" Okies are no longer bagged there. They might be putting Pinnacle DF in the Okie Fir bags now. I believe none of the forum members have seen and "new" ?Okie Fir's as of yet.
