As if smoke doesn't have enough money. Now he's gonna charge big bucks (no pun intended) to kill a pet deer on his measly 400ish acres. Let's keep this civil and open folks. We don't need to get this locked like the Cecil thread. I for one wish the feds would ban this crap...or at least make standards such as minimum acres. Tony Stewart opens Indiana home for hunting, fishing https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...ggaMAA&usg=AFQjCNEoqxEdqhzpCZtN0MhMFZ3st4dkVw
Good for him. Don't know if I'd call 414 acres measly. It's hard to find that much undivided around here. Depends on the lay of the land I suppose. Not a fan of captive hunting but support peoples right to do so.
400 acres is alot of land for a human. Including me. Not so much for a herd of whitetail deer is what I was referring to. That's not even a mile square.
Not much room to hide on 400 acres with multiple hunters. I imagine the guys with wallets fat enough to rent smoke's place will bring a whole posse with them. Fish meet barrel. Might as well call it deer shopping.
Looks like the great state of Indiana has decided that 100 acres is the minimum for a fenced hunting preserve. Senate Bill 109 - Regulation of wild animals and hunting preserves Chapter 14.7
Good info. Thx for that. I'll be writing a letter to the powers that be regarding that. Keep in mind, those politicos are the nut jobs that wrote our new high powered rifle hunting amendment. They listed "300" as a legal cartridge. 300 what? Win mag? Blackout? The list goes on. It was a giant cluster and even the dnr didn't want to try to enforce it. I can see 100 acres for a put and take bird hunt, but not for deer.
400+ acres - about the size of NH . Seriously, we have a cow when an acre burns so 400 is a bunch around here. Farm raised is not the same as a pet deer. If that were the case, we shouldn't eat farm raised cows, pigs or chickens. And I'm confused, is it a pet deer (OP) or is it a herd (comment #6)? you can't have it both ways (and I don't think either is accurate). Heck, there is an elk farm the next town over from me. I'm am pretty darn sure there is not 400 acres to that farm. Bison are also farmed here As for banning it - they just passed the law that allows it earlier this year. And I personally don't care what he does with his land.
You just made my point. Smokes people are hunting deer. Not raising deer for meat, antlers, and dna. A deer farm tends to be small. I've been to a few of them just to gawk. The Deer are on top of each other. They eat from your hand. You can see from one side of the pen to the other. A deer hunting ranch, in my mind, should be much larger. Larger than 414 acres.
We have a trophy buck hunting place here where you hunt on 30 acres fenced. Like Lukem said, that's shopping not hunting, but it's legal and it's their money.
Centerfire cartridge is the only reg on rifle type here. They figure we are smart enough to figure it out from there I figure. Section 6 (1) provide sufficient space and cover to allow permittedanimals the opportunity to evade hunters; I'm curious as to what this means exactly. The second article you linked said that Tony has a place in Mississippi partnered with the catch a dream foundation. If he was setting this place up for that would it change your view?
While I don't agree with those types of "hunts", I don't oppose it enough to try to ban it. These are essentially free-range deer that have a half-way decent life until they get harvested. Much better than that Tyson chicken you buy at the grocery... Edit: I also had to google who Tony Stewart is.
He has already donated multiple hunts to such .orgs as that on the Indiana property. Filmed, broadcast, etc. He didn't need the permits then. This is purely about $. A large sporting goods company has already booked the ranch for the entire 3 week turkey season coming up. I'm sure there are plenty of zeros on that check.
Entrepreneurship at it finest ( or call it capitalism). So what's the beef ? If he was raising crops, beef, or pigs someone would bxxxh about that or what ever farming practices he might be using. He could rent it out as wind farm would that please you?
His money, his land, his choice. I'm not a fan of high fence hunts, I read a study (15-20 years ago) showing Whitetails can successifully hide in supprisingly little cover; my google search skills failed me but 20 acres and a buck avoided being seen around 50% of the time a person walked/stalked trying to find him. 414 acres if rough terrain, heavy cover and moderate deer density could be very tough hunting conditions if your after a mature buck. My main concern is that the high population densities can lead to disease and the spread of CWD which has been found in both Missouri and Arkansas.
I plainly disagree with anything TS does. Not a fan of zoo hunts in any way either. Two reasons I would never go there. 3rd is I don't need to buy me a big buck.
