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Dropped today, guess what it is?

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  1. amateur cutter

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    Yuck!!!! Tree of Heaven NOT IMHO LOL. Nice looking stump though. Good felling job! Treat with the Glyphosate in late summer/early Fall. In Spring the roots are pushing sap up into the foliage, wrong direction to kill the stump. Opposite happens in the fall. Sap returns to the roots for over winter nutrition. Mix the non selective herbicide with a 2/4 D weed killer for better results. 1" hole per 10" trunk diameter evenly spaced will generally provide very satisfactory results.
     
  2. Horkn

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    Cherry?

    Now THIS is a cherry!
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    Tree of heaven, never seen one, but I've not heard one good thing about them.
     
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  3. Paul bunion

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    You certainly can id that one by the smell alone.
     
  4. HarvestMan

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    The difference between Heaven and Hell is always in the eye of the beholder! :)

    They grow quickly and I enjoyed climbing them in my youth! Check "Heard one good thing about Tree of Heaven" off your bucket list Horkn :D

    As for me, I burned some of this stuff (we always called it simply Heavenwood) when I lived in WV and it seemed poor wood plus quite smelly. I would like to have met the person who named this tree ... a real optimist to be sure!
     
  5. bert the turtle

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    Hard to kill off. I had a really big one, about 3 feet across at the stump. It turned out to be hollow. I used the stump as my fire pit for a couple years now including some pretty good sized burns and some that I fed for days. damm thing still sent out a couple of sprouts near the edge this year.
     
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  6. Backwoods Savage

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    But it would seem like the roundup would work best when the tree is growing, like it does on grass. It sort of gives the grass a super growth so make it work best.
     
  7. ansehnlich1

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    Every tree stump I've ever hit with 100% glyphosate has responded with ........ dead. No suckers, no growth, no nothin. Never really paid attention to time of year. We'll just have to wait and see what happens with this stump......one good thing, when I'm able to answer if it worked or not.....it'll be SPRING!
     
  8. Matthewchopswood

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    It would be great if it had good results year round. I have lots of work to do getting rid of the stuff. Have you ever burned any of it ansehnlich1? I am going to work some of it up and get it seasoned. Might be ok to mix in during the shoulder season.
     
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  9. bert the turtle

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    I'm burning some right now. Like any other wood, if it is dry it burns. It isn't particularly dense so it is a relatively short burn, but it dries pretty fast so it is a good place to start if you don't already have a three (or more) year plan. As lightweight as it is, it is pretty good for getting the stove going- lights up easier and faster than denser wood does. Generally easy to split.

    Some of the trees really stink, others aren't so bad. The stench seems to go away as they dry. It goes straight from the porch to the stove so it wouldn't have much time to stink up the house anyway.

    As fast as they grow, it wouldn't take much space to have a permanent source of firewood. They coppice well. But they are invasive so I am trying to eliminate them not cultivate them.
     
  10. ansehnlich1

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    I never burned any ailanthus, but I do intend to split this one up and burn it in the stove. I split one round today just to see how easy it was, no problem splitting, and no terrible smell to it either.
     
  11. Handsonautotech

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    I did some research on it tonight. The males produce the smell, females do not. It is used for medicine in China. Considered invasive here. KOS in some countries. Shade kills it. It produces a chemical that kills other plants and trees. It is resistant to just about everything but shade. It was used next to roads and in other hard to grow areas. Supposed to make s drcent firewood. Can grow as much as 24 feet tall in 4 years.
     
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  12. ansehnlich1

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    I'd like to 'like' your post, but it just doesn't seem right to 'like' a post about a dang tree that I 'dislike' so much.....HAPPY NEW YEAR!
     
  13. Backwoods Savage

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    How do you apply it and do you use it full strength?
     
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    Nothing like seeing a Stihl sunning itself after a day at the office. :banana:


    When I was a kid we always referred to them as a "stink tree". Everyone knew what you were talking about. We used to climb smaller ones like monkeys and swing sideways near the top. Tree would bend over and bring you to the ground without snapping. Poor kids amusement park ride!
     
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  15. ansehnlich1

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    I buy the glyphosate at a local farm/feed mill in 2.5 gallon jugs as I use it around my 10 acres and a few other places, particularly around buildings.

    When I cut the stump, I immediately dump some of it full strength on to the stump, and with a paint brush, make sure to work it in real good around the edges, just inside the bark, but I also make sure to brush it all over just for some insurance in the killin' process! Definitely make sure to let 'er flow real thick around the edges of the stump though, just inside the bark, and definitely do it immediately after cutting the stump.
     
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  16. Kevin in Ohio

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    I worked for an AG chemical applictor and we sold all the chemicals. We always used Tordon RTU(Ready To Use) for stumps. It's what it is made for. It's still available which kind of surprises me as it works well. Blue in color and you just paint the outer Cambium layer as others have stated. If you paint the middle, it's just wasting it for the most part. Used to make Tordon pellets too that we used in ditches and such to keep woody plants out. Didn't kill the grass, just the trees. It lingered a little too long and I think they've banned that. Last I knew, a product called Spike was the option for ditch banks.

    Glyphosate is what Round up is. Monsanto held the patent rights on it and the price was very high when they had a monopoly. Now everyone makes it under different names and the price has dropped way down.

    One interesting thing about glyphosate. While I was working for them, it is the only herbicide I know of that the government actually decreased the toxicity level to humans. I think it went from a Warning to a Caution. that doesn't happen at all with most stuff.

    When sprayed at recommended levels when it hits the ground it is neutralized. We had nurseries use it all the time in beds that they would spray in the morning and once it dried off in a couple hours they'd put in grown plants and flowers in it without tillage. They were not effected.
     
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