Dump Trailer and TLB recommendations......

I've been looking for a while and want to get a Dump Trailer and Tractor/Loader/Backhoe that work well together.. Not sure if my requirements are unreasonable or not but here's what I'd like.

Dump Trailer 14k capacity with a bumper tow.
TLB that will fit in the dump trailer for towing (i.e. fit dimensionally and not be over weight).
Loader lift capacity of 3000Lbs with either forks or loader bucket.

I'm not opposed to having the loader bucket or backhoe sit outside of the trailer on some kind of shelf built on the tongue. I'd even consider hauling the backhoe in the back of the pickup if it didn't put it over the gross weight limit but I don't think I could plan to move the backhoe completely separately.

Depending on recommendations, I'll put this on my Christmas wish list (though maybe not until 2025).

 

Tricky question. I have never been a TLB fan, simply because of the B being a pain to mount and dismount. I also have steep hills, so that might bias me. Buy an excavator and a Bobcat?

 

I'd love to get an old John Deere 350B on tracks with the 4 in 1 loader bucket and backhoe.. Unfortunately, it would require me to buy a much larger truck and trailer to haul it around.. Looking at doing work around the yard and hauling to my property to drag logs out of the woods as well as improve skid trails (digging stumps and rocks).. I think it would be tough to drag logs with either a mini excavator or bobcat.. Thanks for the reply..

 

I think your lift capacity might be high for most units.. ton and a half.. let me go check stats..

Yeah a 46 hp kubota with heavy duty loader depending on height of lift over pivot pin.. ranges from 1400 to 2100 lbs... Boss has 75 hp JD with bucket and forks and 3000 pounds is over his lift rate

 

I'm speaking from experience when I say tools dedicated to certain tasks out perform tools that are good at a bit of everything. Your also likely to break something pushing something, ask me how I know. The other major concern is price. Backhoe may be a waste of money compared to renting an excavator for the jobs you need to get done, excavators are much faster than TLB's at digging, skid steers are much faster at grading and tractors are the best for skidding logs and implement work. I have all these pieces separately except for a skid steer right now, I'll replace that in the spring. If you have heavy work to do the best combo would be a crawler/dozer to to leave on your property, I check CL daily and there's some good deals on crawlers in your area, and a tractor with a loader to make the trip back and forth. Rent an excavator when you need one and beat on someone else's equipment.

 

^^^ is true.. digging with a backhoe is for small jobs... depending on your times worth... tractors are great in implement use... and depending on how far land is from where you want to go in VT with a triangle I just drive it.... anywhere less than 10 miles... even though I am good for 50th miles my tires don't like that much...

 

That all makes sense.. Thanks Canadian border VT and Farmerfrancis . I'd be going about 50 miles so driving the piece of equipment is really not an option. If I'm just looking for a tractor with a loader, it'll certainly be a lot easier fitting it in a dump trailer. I was thinking about the lifting capacity for logs but I guess if I lift one end at a time, I'm only looking at 1500 lbs versus 3000 lbs.. Will continue to do research.. Thanks for the advice!!!!

 

I'd look for a tractor in the 30hp+ range and you'll be surprised at how well they can perform for you, you'll never go without one again that's for sure

 

For what you say what you want to do, a Cat MTL {multi-terrain loader} would be the cats pajamas. They are kind of pricey, fairly high maintenance, but one of the handiest, all around, multi-tasking machines I have ever operated. You can get any attachment you could ever dream of. And they're highly mobile and easy to transport.

 

The JD 110 is nice but I am pretty sure they quit making it. A Kubota L47 will do what you want. If you can swing it a M62 would be even nicer with 4000lbs of lift capacity but it may not fit in a dump trailer.

Here is are some pics of the M62.




For a dump trailer look at suretrac. They are very well made and not over priced. I would go with a 16' trailer. A dump trailer is not an ideal way to haul machine like this.

 

Heh. When I saw TLB, first thing I thought of was a Deere 110 TLB too.

I know when I was looking to get my own tractor after borrowing a mini digger from the golf course and being talked out of a beat up old Ford loader/backhoe, I made a long list of projects I intended to accomplish with rough estimated hours, and as much as everyone tried to talk me into a 3 series Deere I ended up with a 2520 with a back hoe and I haven't wished I had bought bigger too often yet.

I've had a couple of rocks that wouldn't fit in the bucket and I had to roll. I've since bought an Artillian fork frame to pick up stuff too big for the bucket, etc..

 

Ahh, I somehow missed the dragging logs aspect. I have a Deere 3038E, with a Norse 350 winch on it. It does everything I ask of it, and since it has the E in it the price is much lower. Throw a set of forks or a clam shell on it, and you are golden. Unless you are planning to cut and skid very large trees, this combo will work. The winch goes on and off in less than 5 minutes and is somewhat inexpensive. I will have my setup paid off shortly, so my next investment is going to be an excavator, and an older bobcat. I scour craigslist routinely and come across some great deals. The backhoe reference threw me for a loop, my apologies if i at all came across wrong.

 

No worries... That 3038E is a good looking machine.. Looks like the winch is about $2600 new.. Not bad.. Will start looking to see what is available. I've got time so at least a steer in the right direction is very helpful.. Thanks.

 

What size truck do you have now?

 

No problem. Deere will try to steer your towards the non E models, which admittedly have more creature comfort at a $10K difference. There are a handful of little items I struggle with, but overall I am happy and I beat this thing very hard. Good luck and let us know where you land.

 

John Deere 4320 No clue on the shape etc.

 

The JD 110 WAS a nice machine, seem's they still hold a pretty good price, around $22-25k if you can find one. Never heard a bad word about Kubota's dedicated TLB's, they often have 0% interest (on the tractor side) not sure on the const. equip.