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Firewood Survey

Discussion in 'The Wood Pile' started by Grizzly Adam, Sep 19, 2016.

  1. Eric VW

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    So......if in the next few months/year/years, suddenly c/s/s our own trees becomes an issue or there'll be a tax credit for burning "commissioned" wood makes the headlines?

    In this day and age woodsman416, your take could become the "new normal" as our God given rights continue to be usurped a little at a time.....:salute:
    But, I've been known to digress.......:whistle:
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  2. NortheastAl

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    Funny how we may have to use heat treated wood when all the problems started with imported untreated wood. Just sayin'.
     
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  3. Jon_E

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    I'm less than a mile from NY as the crow flies, and only about 15 miles from MA. I can't get wood from either place, but I can drive 40 miles east or 150 miles north and get all the wood I want. Not transporting wood due to pests or disease makes sense. Restricting it because of artificial boundaries does not.
     
  4. 003Trikerider

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    I can understand not transporting firewood vast distance or from/to geographically isolated areas. As stated before the artificial boundaries, county lines, etc... are not relevant, but enforceable I guess.
     
  5. NortheastAl

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    Enforceable is most likely the reason for the border rule. Personally, I don't think it that has a great effect on controlling disease and pests, but it is something.
     
  6. boettg33

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    There are several sides to this effort. The side of me that does not trust the government says that groups such as the EPA and many other conservation groups would use this as an effort to shutdown the burning of firewood at home.(Sorry you just can't get away from this being politically driven.) The flip side is that this effort would be protecting our ability to continue to burn firewood in our homes long into the future.

    Thoughts:
    • Firewood suppliers cost to purchase the equipment to treat the wood.
    • Licensing that would be sure to follow to ensure that the firewood suppliers are complying with the law.
    • Increase in taxes to provide additional resources to enforce the law.
    • Significantly increased cost per cord handed off to consumer.
    • Inability to purchase log lengths from suppliers as it treating them before delivering would be much more difficult.
    I live in the smallest state in the union, and my source of firewood comes from a small radius.

    For me, I think the short answer is to move to a wooded property with more 10 acres. This should give you a life time of firewood locally sourced. I can't imagine they would go so far that they would make homeowners get firewood from their own property treated.


    Jason from RI
     
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  7. LodgedTree

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    Of course it could also be to make paying taxes on firewood sales more enforceable too. I know in Maine anyway, home heat is non-taxable, but a person selling wood for income has to claim it. I do because my firewood sales runs through my farm, but I know quite a few who sell (or barter) a few cords of firewood every year and its all under the table.

    BTW: Always check your receipt when buying home heat. I found taxes being put on coal when I bought it at several different places. I also found taxes being placed on grain for livestock, again another non-taxable item in Maine anyway.
     
  8. Horkn

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    Naw, the size of the Chinese mantis it's a dead giveaway vs the mantis's we do have in the southern states.

    Mantises of North America
     
  9. NortheastAl

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  10. Minnesota Marty

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    interesting, very interesting
     
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  11. Redneck

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    Survey completed
     
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  12. Gary_602z

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    I was at a meeting with our DNR and the guy had colored maps showing how many years it would take to spread based on the spread of the Zebra Mussel. I had to explain to him that realistically it could be done in less then 24 hours. Kind of shot their theories and maps all to hell. The problem was caused by ballast water in ships and is up to our industry to solve or try to prevent!:headbang:
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  13. Kimberly

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    Personally I think it is crazy to start taking about heat treating firewood; how about the Asians having to do the heat treating. We have gotten so much crap in the way of species from Asian that is destroying the environment but we won't stop bringing the crap in. Japanese stilt grass is taking over my place and it is everywhere now; national forests, everywhere, where it chokes out the native plants. It is believed that stilt grass came from its use in packing material. Then we can talk about he Asian Carp and the federal government not allowing electric fences in the waterways. How about we stop bringing in the crap in the first place and we won't have to run around waving our arms in the air after the fact.
     
  14. JA600L

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    Survey completed. I say as long as we keep planting more trees we will be fine. Dead trees mean firewood for us. Trees are a resource .
     
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    I wouldn't fill that survey out. Whoever is behind this is up to no good.
     
  16. savemoney

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    So much of government regulations comes from laws driven by lobbyist. Not always in your best interest. Big pharm, oil, "green movement". They all have a hand in there. I personally feel the states should individually be setting the rules. In large states, it might even be by county. Is it a miracle that any small business survives in this climate.
     
  17. Canadian border VT

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    filled it out.. they might not like answers though... heat treated firewood is kiln dried to moisture of 11% in my state.. good thing is they now what dry wood is then... bad thing 450na cord... ouch..
     
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  18. gmule

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    Filled it out as well. I had to use the other comment button to tailor my responses to my area. overall a good survey
     
  19. gmule

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    My state has imported Chinese lady bugs to combat the pine beetle. What next we have a lady bug problem?
     
  20. LodgedTree

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