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Question For Progress Hybreid Owners

Discussion in 'Modern EPA Stoves and Fireplaces' started by mick-fish, Jan 30, 2014.

  1. mick-fish

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    Hi...Just a quick Question for you Progress owners ....With the stove being 700 lbs. .Has any of you had to reinforce the floor beams for the weight of stove and hearth ...that has to be a lot of weight in one spot...Thanks
     
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    I have an old 1840 farmhouse with big timbers supporting my floor, probably 10-12 inches, 3 foot on center..... Center of my stove is about 28 inches out from the wall... Those two beams rest under my hearth... I think the combined weight of the stove and hearth is around 900-1000 lbs,,, so for piece of mind I installed boards up against my beams and have a screw jack column under each beam... Maybe nothing would ever happen,,, but now I know nothing ever will... A good peace of mind .. Just the way I like to do things... If in doubt support it I say... Extra support will never hurt,,, coming home to a smoke filled house because the floor sagged while you were out and the pipe pulled away would go against me knowing better... The last thing I want is to pull up to see the fire department here. So if your in doubt , do what your gut feeling tells you... There were no codes when my farmhouse was built,, but they did use some common sense and big timbers.. Once I started to move the PH around, it made me think about the weight of the stove on the floor..:whistle:
     
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    I all depends on the framing and condition of the house. More than likely reinforcement isn't needed, but if it is, it should be an easy job to do.

    Welcome to the forums:)
     
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    Welcome to the Firewood Hoarders Club,, Mick -Fish... Sounds like you maybe have your eyes on a Progress Hybrid... She is for sure one heavy stove...
     
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    I don't have a Hybrid but my stove ways close to 580lbs, then I have the weight of my concrete hearth which is easily 300-400 lbs, and I stack a 1/3 of a cord of wood on my hearth. My floor joists are 16" on center 2x12's and span close to 20 feet. I placed a beam and jacks under my hearth in the summer but in the winter as things contract the beam actually gets loose and could be removed even though it is snug in the summer. Long story short I highly doubt my floor has sagged or would sag without the beam. it really depends on the construction of your house.
     
  6. mick-fish

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    well that was a quick reply thanks all....P.S. Charlie...If I due it ,It's going to Hunter N.Y.
     
  7. charlie

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    Your about 48 miles from me... If you haven't been to Woodstock, go... you'll love the people and their stoves... Hey your welcome to come here anytime as well to check out my PH...
     
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    Welcome to the forum mick-fish.

    If you do get the Progress, you will love it. Be prepared to receive lots of heat from that beast. Just be careful moving it and it will depend upon where it is and what you have to do to get it to the hearth. I still live these for moving stoves:
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    I used a moveable ramp with sections of plywood to roll the PH up through my doorway and then moved the ramp to my hearth.. Even putting plywood on the ramp for the wheels to roll on as to not mar my brick. Being 47 miles away , you are welcome to the ramp I built,, it fits the PH to a tee.. Wife and I did the whole move, out with the Fireview and in with the PH.. I'll post the hearth move pictures next.

    Hearth ramp 002.JPG Progress move 003.JPG Progress move 006.JPG Progress move 012.JPG Progress move 015.JPG
     
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    Now the move from inside to the hearth.... I have more pictures putting the legs , shimming the stove up to remove the pallet, etc; if you need to see what I did.. Again, no damage to anything,, and the wife and I did it all, just worked smart...
    Progress Hybrid move 002.JPG Progress Hybrid move 007.JPG Progress Hybrid move 010.JPG Progress Hybrid move 011.JPG Progress Hybrid move 017.JPG Progress Hybrid move 019.JPG Progress Hybrid move 021.JPG Progress Hybrid move 026.JPG
     
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    Good pics Charlie, I'm going to get either the PH ort he IS and I'm not looking forward to the move, if you get a chance can you (or anyone with a PH) measure the distance between the front and back legs?

    thanks
     
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    Outside edge to outside edge from front to back 20 3/4 inches..or 20.750 inches.. Is this what your looking for?
     
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    Yes, thanks Charlie, I'm trying to get my wife to take a ride to Woodstock and I can get a better idea whether or not I have to extend the hearth or not, either way I'm getting a bigger stove.
     
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    If you get the ash lip on the PH it cuts the front requirements down to like 8 inches, plus it lowers the hearth R value requirement.. Something to keep in mind if you get tight for clearances.. Woodstock is a really fun place to visit... If you've never been there, your in for a real treat.. I went just to look the first time and left owning a Fireview... You'll be treated like family...what a great environment seeing all the stoves being built and ones ready to go, plus super nice people.. It's really a nice feeling buying from them.. They make you feel like your the only one they sold a stove too and it's all about you... You'll see when you go for your visit.. Then you see the amazing quality of the stoves... all good karma .
     
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    The wife said in two weeks, she has a day off so we'll go then. I don't have any clearance issues, its going in a large stone fireplace with a ceramic tile floor over concrete, the issue is if I tuck it too far into the fireplace I won't be able to open the side or tops. It's close but I'll find out for sure when I go up there. If I have to extend the hearth then I'll probably extend it enough to accommodate the IS. Unless they make changes in the size of the IS for the final product it won't work as is but it's not a big deal to extend the hearth.
     
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    You'll have a fun time at Woodstock...:thumbs:
     
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    If you don't have fun, something drastic is wrong! Great people up there. Wish we were closer but then I'd probably visit too often or they would hogtie me and put me at a desk!
     
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    Dennis, for you there would be a milk crate waiting! :drool:
     
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  20. mick-fish

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    Charlie....Thanks for the offer. My big problem is getting it up 10 stairs I will need a hand truck of some sort with straps.I am waiting for more info on the pricing of the new stove and spec. and then I will make up my mind .I know I want a Woodstock ,just not sure which modle....It will happen this summer...I will let you know when I due it......Thanks for the pictures Mick-Fish
     
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