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Nc30 questions

Discussion in 'Modern EPA Stoves and Fireplaces' started by Ruffrider, Mar 16, 2016.

  1. Babaganoosh

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    This is my second year burning and my wood this year is much drier than last year. The difference is night and day. With this mild winter I'm approximately 2 years ahead now. Next year and the years after will be a pleasure and smooth sailing.
     
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    It's a real eye opener, isn't it? I struggled for a good 3 years before things started getting well dried.
     
  3. Ruffrider

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    So in my head I'm trying to fix this problem, here goes my idea. The lenght of the damper rod is 6.5 inches fully pulled out. When the rod is fully pushed in it is sticking out 2-1/16. Half way would be 4.25" inches sticking out right?

    Reason I ask is because I have heard over and over again that from fully open to half way open this stove does not react at all but from half way open to closed it is very touchy. I am going to put the spring on again and teach myself the half way point usingthe spring as the reference point. Thanks.
     
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    My stove doesn't react much at all half way closed either , after that small movement makes a big difference .
    I marked my rod and it works great for me. First mark by stove is half way ,rod is pushed in 1/4 in the pic

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    Ruffrider , something I do that makes it easier (for my pea brain), is to push the rod in all the way until it stops, then pull back out 1/4"-3/8" or so for a long burn.
    This varies depending on amount of wood, how cold it is, etc., but it works pretty well until you get a good handle (get it?) on where to set it for your burns.
    Very small adjustments at that point sometimes make big changes, so don't just think you got it and walk away.
    I thought I had mine all set last night, but it was really crankin', so I shut the air completely until the fire died down a little. There's still a lot of secondary air getting in as well as doghouse air even with the primary shut off. I opened it back up a few minutes before bed, and kept my eye on it until it felt right.:sleeping:
    Pretty good bed of coals and a slightly hazy glass this morning. Normal stuff.
     
  6. Ruffrider

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    Okay any pictures of how you guys load this baby considering the dog house please?.
     
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    I try to leave a little channel front to back right in front of the doghouse, but it's not really needed. The doghouse air will burn a hole through whatever gets put there.
     
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    Marked my rod with silver magic marker for now we shall see if it holds.
     
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    So if anybody cares to know the rod sticks out 6-1/2 inches. Half way is 4-1/4 inches. One quarter of the rod is 3-1/8. And 1/8 of the rod is 2-9/16 inches. MEASUREMENTS ARE FROM BASE OF STOVE WHERE DAMPER ENTERS TO OUTWARDS WHERE ASH LIP IS. Good night.
     
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    I don't measure my rod, I just marked it, ;)sometimes I mark my territory ;) :rofl: :lol:
     
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    Someone had to do it.
     
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    So here is my next question why does the stove look like this the front half of the stove is nice and red and the back half is black like there is no oxygen back there at all. That is what upsetting me about this stove. The back half should have some red coals but no it doesn't, it is all black and dark back there. So annoying. It's like I should take some gasket off the door to get a draft back there.
     

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    At least my hearthstone h1 would burn all kinds of wood and last all night and burn all the wood not just half of the wood and leave the other half to smolder. Not understanding a EPA stove. As soon as I rake the coals and the whole bed is red I close the door and boom total darkness in the back half with this stove.
     
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    Primary and doghouse air both come in the front.
    Most of us rake stuff to the front....had to do the same with my old air-tight stove.
    It is what it is.
    Adapt, adjust, and be happy. You're burning cleaner (with dry wood), and should be getting at least a little longer burns. I am.
     
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    I just read on the hearth site, that having an 8" pipe connected anywhere on the stove piping is bad. Well I used have the H1 that required 8" piping. And the hole through the wall is 8" too. So what I did was put my 8 to 6 reducer in the wall or thimble I should say. I hope that is not any type of problem. Also someone said on there to pitch the horizontal run pipe up or something like that is that true?
     

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    Someone suggested here or in another thread, I get them mixed up, that 2 45* s are better than 1 90* if that helps:) Did I follow you right?, the pipe from the stove is 6" and the liner is 8"?