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First Fire In New Stove Guidelines Please

Discussion in 'Modern EPA Stoves and Fireplaces' started by Kimberly, Feb 10, 2016.

  1. Kimberly

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    OK, lesson learn; my apologies to yooperdave . See, I have things to learn here.
     
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    That is what my friend called them, the guys that climb trees and cut them from the top down. Uh, is that not a polite term; I only used it because my friend did?
     
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    The pic that concretegrazer posted looks good. That is your pic/stove right?
     
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    I will get a shot from the back garden and post tomorrow.
     
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    Yes
     
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    Once the stove and chimney get warm, that's about how the stove should burn, with the door shut and the draft open, with that amount of kindling, after it all gets going.
    Just keep the door cracked as long as you need to to, to keep the flames going. As things warm up, the draft will increase and you can close the door more and more until it is fully closed. Then the fire is regulated by the draft lever.
     
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    Until the fire gets roaring and you can feel the heat away form the stove, don't mess with the damper. Leave it full open. Get used to the idea of not seeing the secondaries burn like what you have heard/seen on here and youtube.
    The learning process will continue as long as you burn...years from now, you will still be learning-hopefully.

    With the amount of chimney that you have exposed outside, you will have some spillage simply because the draft is not hot enough.

    Curious, what is the outside temp today?

    Only more advice (if you can stand it) is to split your wood small at this point. It'll still take awhile to get it going, but once going, it will feed itself since smaller pieces burn hotter/quicker. Stack them in a log cabin fashion when burning, and don't expect a long burn time.
     
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    28.8 F/-1.8 C
     
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    It's not a derogatory term.

    I consider myself a tree monkey, but I am not a tree climbing arborist.

    With regards to dry wood, I've seen some dead standing trees perfectly ready for the stove just literally cut down. There are a lot of factors though, so a moisture meter will be the only way to really know, otherwise you are just guessing if it's ready to burn.
     
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    Oh, the door was slightly ajar.
     
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    Remember to avoid smoke spillage while opening the door just crack the door, wait a few seconds and then open it slooowly
     
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    There is a thread here, very funny thread, a member in Japan was getting wood and tree monkeys were running past him:)
     
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    x2!! It will become a habit quickly.
     
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    I agree on the wood.. A red oak, ash, or locust that has been dead for 6 years will still need to be split and at least air dried for a year (or two.. or three).

    I believe your experience is wet wood as Yooper has been saying..

    As for the break in fires? You have way over thought the process. Build a small fore or two and have at it. There is no way to completely control the temp. The idea is to not warp the stove and to dry the firebrick. So long as you're not firing at 700° on the first 2 fires? You'll be fine..

    But for that wood? You're gonna need more than normal draft/air and an exceptional coal bed.

    Most hardware stores (Hone depot, Lowes, etc) sell small bundles of wood that are kiln dried. Spend a few dollars and through those on the same coals and see where your intake needs to be.. I'm betting next winter will be much easier for you.. :)
     
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    How tall is your chimney? Smoke spillage is a result of poor draft.

    I have 4 ft indoors and 18 ft of Class A outside. Never had an issue. I always open the door without doing anything special..
     
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    Good timing:thumbs:

    Who says... | Firewood Hoarders Club
     
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    I should have added to this, remember to open your air all the way before attempting opening the door
     
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    and for new cat stove owners, remember to open the bypass:rofl: :lol:
     
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    Not tall enough. I think there is only around 9 usable feet of chimney.
     
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