In loving memory of Kenis D. Keathley 6/4/81 - 3/27/22 Loving father, husband, brother, friend and firewood hoarder Rest in peace, Dexterday

The Napoleon NZ3000 Build Thread

Discussion in 'Modern EPA Stoves and Fireplaces' started by Scotty Overkill, Jan 4, 2015.

  1. Scotty Overkill

    Scotty Overkill Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2013
    Messages:
    9,478
    Likes Received:
    62,884
    Location:
    Central PA
    shamefully, not yet. I still have to fabricate a filter/blower box to pull the heat and distribute it through three different rooms. Hoping to get that done sometime soon, in the spring....
     
  2. Scotty Overkill

    Scotty Overkill Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2013
    Messages:
    9,478
    Likes Received:
    62,884
    Location:
    Central PA
    Okay, after a long delay, it's time to pick back up on the project......lol

    Hanging the stone was, IMO, my favorite part of the whole job. It looks hard to do, and can be intimidating when you first try it, but once you get the hang of it, it's like riding a bike. Stonework is a lot like building a puzzle. You want the rocks to fit nicely, but you also want the fit to look natural and as "un-coerced" as possible.....

    2012-12-02_22-00-10_359.jpg

    I learned the hard way to hang stone from THE TOP DOWN. I tried from the bottom up, and all I did was slop my freshly hung stones with mortar as I made my way up the wall. Each evening when I came home from work, I'd mix up a half wheelbarrow of mortar and hang stones till I ran out of mortar. Some nights I'd struggle to empty the wheelbarrow...the stones would "fight" me and not fit right. Other nights they'd fit like a glove, and I'd mix two batches and run out quickly. The stone was all hung in the weeks before Christmas 2012.

    2012-12-03_20-54-41_13.jpg

    You can see above that there are small spaces that don't have rocks in them. Some of those spaces were left for mortar, others would receive a rock....

    That's all a part of doing the stone. To make it look natural, you do what feels natural. My goal was to have it look like it was built over 200 years ago.

    2012-12-04_23-50-15_876.jpg

    Above, you can see I'm at the 'halfway' point.....but the hardest work was yet to come. Making cut stones around the top of the fireplace....

    On another note, can you guys see the "howling wolf" stone? That was EXACTLY how I found that stone on the mountain. I thought it was really cool!!

    2012-12-06_08-19-40_954.jpg


    2012-12-06_10-45-37_145.jpg

    Above, you can see the stones I cut and chipped for the top of the fireplace. I liked the look of the 'coffin' keystone, so that's what I made......

    2012-12-06_14-58-15_41.jpg
    Here they are, all installed.......let the fire go out so they could cure slowly.....
     
  3. Eric VW

    Eric VW Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2015
    Messages:
    24,095
    Likes Received:
    137,973
    Location:
    US
    Aaaawwwesome! Is that a refractory liner in your insert Scotty Overkill ?
     
  4. Scotty Overkill

    Scotty Overkill Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2013
    Messages:
    9,478
    Likes Received:
    62,884
    Location:
    Central PA
    2012-12-06_16-39-02_3.jpg

    after the archway was done, it was time to run with it again.....filling in the puzzle.....

    Day.....

    2012-12-08_09-11-56_458.jpg

    after day....

    2012-12-08_11-50-59_832.jpg

    after day.....

    2012-12-08_13-20-15_998.jpg

    after day.....til finally, it was time to do the big rocks for the hearth.....
    as with the veneer stone, the big hearthstones came off of the mountain as well. All of the stone is from the mountains around our house.....

    Notice the holes in the chase at the top of the fireplace and on either side of it? I put those in to help ventilate the chase, and they work nice. I cut and fit stone to make slanted registers in all three of those holes, so you cannot see into the chase....kinda like stone venetian blinds.....lol

    2012-12-08_17-27-53_78.jpg

    2012-12-18_22-19-59_243.jpg


    in this pic above, you can see the stones installed in the registers......as well as all the thick hearthstones. almost time to grout it.....

    2012-12-22_14-11-51_397.jpg

    After several days of grouting, the finished product. It still needed cleaned with vinegar and brushed...More pics coming, don't go nowhere!! ;)
     
  5. Scotty Overkill

    Scotty Overkill Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2013
    Messages:
    9,478
    Likes Received:
    62,884
    Location:
    Central PA
    it's a ZC fireplace, not an insert.....lol....
    and yes, it has removable refractory bricks in it....
     
  6. Eric VW

    Eric VW Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2015
    Messages:
    24,095
    Likes Received:
    137,973
    Location:
    US
    Oh man I feel dumb:picard:
    :rofl: :lol:
    From the pictures, it looked more like "cast" ZERO CLEARANCE FIREPLACE walls than refrac brick.
    :thumbs:
    :rofl: :lol:
     
    Well Seasoned and Horkn like this.
  7. Scotty Overkill

    Scotty Overkill Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2013
    Messages:
    9,478
    Likes Received:
    62,884
    Location:
    Central PA
    after a good cleaning and installing the 300lb hand-hewn pine mantel, you can't even hardly tell that the fireplace was just built. Has the feel and charm of a 250yr old fireplace, but heats the entire 2800 sq. ft. house pretty derned good!!

    2012-12-24_12-30-07_392.jpg

    2012-12-31_12-56-04_10.jpg

    You can see my 250yr. old shovel next to the fire......

    2013-09-14_20-50-18_849.jpg

    20140308_105036-1-1.jpg

    Pic above of all my antique 18th and early 19th century hand wrought iron and copper utensils....

    2012-12-29_10-51-58_874.jpg

    I love seeing the snow on the flue outside, knowing that the fire is cranking inside and doesn't lose the heat!! The efficiency of this thing really is amazing.....
     
  8. Scotty Overkill

    Scotty Overkill Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2013
    Messages:
    9,478
    Likes Received:
    62,884
    Location:
    Central PA
    They are cast refractories, made from firebrick material.....so you're probably right.....I may have mis-understood your question. LOL..

    the refractories are a whopping 350 bucks to replace, so when the time comes I'll either be making my own, or retrofitting the fireplace with brick......so far, they are in excellent condition, and we've been using it for almost 4 years now. Heavy use...
     
  9. Eric VW

    Eric VW Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2015
    Messages:
    24,095
    Likes Received:
    137,973
    Location:
    US
    There are lots of "castable" refractories at 55# bags from local industrial suppliers which are both reasonably priced AND easily workable. I've used 3 different brands overall in making my rocket stove assemblies, 2 of castable which were great, and one type of "rammable" which was not cool.....at all......for real.:rofl: :lol:
     
    savemoney, Horkn and Scotty Overkill like this.
  10. Scotty Overkill

    Scotty Overkill Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2013
    Messages:
    9,478
    Likes Received:
    62,884
    Location:
    Central PA
    I'll probably do that, if and when the time comes to replace them. Use some metal lath for structure....
     
  11. DexterDay

    DexterDay Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2013
    Messages:
    12,411
    Likes Received:
    31,628
    Location:
    Northeast Oh
    I've seen a hundred pics of your stove/Hearth and never noticed!!

    Now I'm gonna be looking for it in every pic! :)
    Screenshot_2016-01-21-21-35-25-1.jpg
     
  12. clemsonfor

    clemsonfor

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2013
    Messages:
    15,996
    Likes Received:
    37,470
    Location:
    Greenwood county SC
    Yep I didnt really notice it in the pic he asked if we could see it..I thought I could see it but that was not a good pic. The latter pics and this one show it perfect. A few pics after you pointed it out I saw it perfect.
     
  13. MightyWhitey

    MightyWhitey

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2014
    Messages:
    1,745
    Likes Received:
    6,301
    Location:
    5 miles South of the "cheddar curtain".
    Couple questions Scottie.............

    1. On average, how heavy were the veneer stones inside and out??
    2. What/how did you grout the stones? I'm guessing you don't grout them like smooth and thin tiles.

    Very impressive.
     
  14. Scotty Overkill

    Scotty Overkill Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2013
    Messages:
    9,478
    Likes Received:
    62,884
    Location:
    Central PA
    the stones aren't real heavy individually, on average they are 1-1.5" thick. They are a bit heavier than man made veneer.....

    As for grout, I used a 3 to 1 mortar mix with pewter colored Type N mortar. I used a grout bag to put it in and pointed it with my fingers and spoons to give it a vintage look......

    Turned out great!

    Thanks for the compliments, brother!
     
  15. Scotty Overkill

    Scotty Overkill Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2013
    Messages:
    9,478
    Likes Received:
    62,884
    Location:
    Central PA
    Modified a couple pics with the new SuperPhoto app, looks like a watercolor painting!

    SuperPhoto_151226135343-1.jpg

    SuperPhoto_151226211118.jpg
     
  16. brenndatomu

    brenndatomu

    Joined:
    May 29, 2015
    Messages:
    21,959
    Likes Received:
    138,877
    Location:
    NE Ohio
    Wowsers! Thanks to Eric VW for the link to this, I've seen finished pics of the project but somehow missed this build thread.
    I think I'm a pretty creative person that is pretty good at coming up with outside the box solutions and pride myself on "above and beyond" quality control when it comes to my personal workmanship...but this, this is one of the most impressive DIY projects I have ever seen!
    Its very obvious that there was sooo much planning, forethought, engineering, and craftsmanship that went into this...not entirely sure I could have pulled this off myself...feeling a little humbled in the presence of such greatness....and understanding the Scotty Overkill username more everyday...
    Mind blown!!!
    :thumbs: :yes: :thumbs: :yes: :thumbs: :yes: :thumbs: :yes: :thumbs: :yes: :thumbs: :yes: :thumbs: :yes: :thumbs: :yes: :thumbs: :yes: :thumbs: :yes:
     
    Chaz, concretegrazer, milleo and 8 others like this.
  17. Thor

    Thor

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2016
    Messages:
    2,160
    Likes Received:
    16,839
    Location:
    Genoa City,Wi
    x2 very nice work.
     
  18. papadave

    papadave

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2013
    Messages:
    18,181
    Likes Received:
    82,468
    Location:
    Right where I want to be.
    Yeah, he did ok. :D:rofl: :lol:
    I wouldn't even attempt it, but I'm glad he did.
    If any of you guys who might be a little newer to the site haven't read this whole thread, you owe it to yourself to do so. Seriously.
     
  19. Scotty Overkill

    Scotty Overkill Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2013
    Messages:
    9,478
    Likes Received:
    62,884
    Location:
    Central PA
    Thanks buddy! As I've said many times before, I made myself learn to do this work out of the simple fact that I could have NEVER afforded to pay someone to do it for me. We always wanted a colonial style fireplace, but the only way we could afford to have one was to do the work ourselves.

    Over the course of our home remodel, I did natural stone veneer several places. The garage facade, the porch, the foundation, the staircase wall in our kitchen and the wall behind the woodstove in our kitchen. It gained me experience and confidence that I'd need for the fireplace build. I had access to natural stone veneer, or else I'd been screwed there too. The real stuff is very expensive.

    At any rate, I am no genius or professional, but over the course of doing my own house I learned a true passion for the stone masonry. I love doing it. I wish I'd had started out earlier in life because I'd have enjoyed a career doing it....
     
    papadave, HDRock and brenndatomu like this.
  20. Scotty Overkill

    Scotty Overkill Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2013
    Messages:
    9,478
    Likes Received:
    62,884
    Location:
    Central PA
    I really appreciate the kind words, papadave.
    I take pride in the fact that you and many others were there when I literally was discussing the building of this monstrosity, and you were there when every stone was laid too! Thanks for the kind words, as you already know it was a labor of love for sure.