In loving memory of Kenis D. Keathley 6/4/81 - 3/27/22 Loving father, husband, brother, friend and firewood hoarder Rest in peace, Dexterday

Lack of birds at feeder !!!???

Discussion in 'Everything Else (off topic)' started by JustWood, Jan 1, 2016.

  1. JustWood

    JustWood Guest

    Put the feeder up around mid Oct. Had birds coming within days. Refilling every 3 days.
    Around mid Nov I filled it and hung a couple cobs of corn from the small tree the feeder is hanging in. I have a pair of cardinals that visit occasionally but nothing else and the feeder is still 3/4 full from about 45 days ago. Same birdseed I started the fall out with.
    I actually had a squirrel hitting the feeder and he's nowhere to be seen either !!!
    What is up ???
     
    1964 262 6 likes this.
  2. papadave

    papadave

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2013
    Messages:
    18,181
    Likes Received:
    82,470
    Location:
    Right where I want to be.
    Tainted seed from China?
    That is weird. Birds around here would be all over a feeder, but so might be a bear, so we don't do that.
     
    1964 262 6 and Stinny like this.
  3. rottiman

    rottiman

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2013
    Messages:
    14,437
    Likes Received:
    95,936
    Location:
    XXXXXXXXXXX
    Might have a owl or two hanging around..........................
     
    1964 262 6 and papadave like this.
  4. papadave

    papadave

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2013
    Messages:
    18,181
    Likes Received:
    82,470
    Location:
    Right where I want to be.
    Good thought rotti. Perhaps a hawk?
    Other predators?
     
    1964 262 6 and rottiman like this.
  5. ranger bob

    ranger bob

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2015
    Messages:
    448
    Likes Received:
    1,028
    Location:
    Leeburn Ontario
    Totally strange indeed. Maybe the abnormal weather is a factor somehow. That would not surprise me. We just started feeding about 3 weeks ago. The normal suspects are around. Chickadees, blue jays, the odd evening grossbeak, a red squirrel who has mastered the art of climbing 6 feet up 3 inch pvc - but that will end when I spray some Armour All on it. Once the friction is gone he'll be upside down on the ground. It's hillarious - he will sit and stare at it after a few tries and then that's it for the rest of the winter. There are a couple of others who feed around the lake and sometimes little flocks frequent one place over another. Maybe you have a neighbor who feeds caviar and shrimp and the old seed loses it's appeal? LOL
     
    1964 262 6, papadave and rottiman like this.
  6. Backwoods Savage

    Backwoods Savage Moderator

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2013
    Messages:
    48,182
    Likes Received:
    306,101
    Location:
    Central MI
    First thing I would do would be to remove said feeder and disinfect it. I've seen this work before and sometimes when the feeders aren't cleaned often enough it can make the birds sick. With the warm weather we've had this could definitely happen especially in the fall. More moisture in the fall but cooler air and lower sun angle does not allow as good of drying conditions.
     
    rottiman likes this.
  7. Paul bunion

    Paul bunion

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2013
    Messages:
    3,394
    Likes Received:
    13,495
    Location:
    NJ
    The above advice on fresh seed in clean feeders is good. 3/4 full after 45 days could easily mean that it has become damp and spoiled. Look carefully at your seed to make sure there are no bugs in it.

    Beyond that the biggest reason for lack of birds is probably the weather. Warmer temps and lack of snow have probably given them good foraging elsewhere. Feeder action has been slower here also.
     
  8. JustWood

    JustWood Guest

    What I find strange is the squirrel stopped showing the same time the birds did . Them idiots are persistent to the point of insanity.
    Morning doves roost in the pines close to the feeder and even they are no show.
    The cardinals coming occasionally tell me the seed is ok.
    I may change things up today and see what happens
     
  9. Paul bunion

    Paul bunion

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2013
    Messages:
    3,394
    Likes Received:
    13,495
    Location:
    NJ
    Take s careful look at the seed. Both what is in the feeder and what you have in the bag. I learned a while ago to buy small bags of thistle at a higher price because I could never use the big bag before bugs got to it. Another thing to look at is the quality/nutritional value of the seed. The bird food store here keeps saying that their food is better than discount/grocery store bags, even at their premium price because it has what the birds need to eat and not cheap 'filler'. Don't know what you have but that might be something to look at also.
     
    1964 262 6 and Backwoods Savage like this.
  10. Backwoods Savage

    Backwoods Savage Moderator

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2013
    Messages:
    48,182
    Likes Received:
    306,101
    Location:
    Central MI
    Paul brings up some excellent points. We have in the past purchased seed that turned out to be no good and it is possible you have some like it. I would at least try emptying the feeder, cleaning it and then replace the seed with some newly bought seen then see what happens.

    As for the weather, yes, we have a lot less feeding going on when the ground is bare and the weather is warmer. But, there is still always some action at the feeders.
     
    1964 262 6 and Paul bunion like this.
  11. ironpony

    ironpony

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2013
    Messages:
    3,636
    Likes Received:
    19,585
    Location:
    Mid Ohio
    old seed, warm weather and in our case a hawk made home in the top of a close tree, easy meals for it. find fur and feathers around the feeders weekly.
     
    1964 262 6 likes this.
  12. JustWood

    JustWood Guest

    Cleaned the feeder and a few birds started showing. About half empty in 10 days.
    Started paying attention close to home and rarely see any small birds.
    Crows geese hawks and seagulls galore but rarely small birds.
    I'm thinking the weather is more at play than anything.
     
  13. JustWood

    JustWood Guest

    Still not many birds. Mainly Juncos and common sparrows and the cardinals have been a complete no show,,,,,, until today.
    I scrounged a decent but beat up feeder out of a dumpster a few years ago. I put some screws in it and brought it back to life. Birds loved it. Last spring when I took it down I leaned it up against the shop and we had a windstorm that night and it got beat to pieces, glass broke and top ripped off.
    The other nite I had a brainstorm as the hanging feeder just wasn't bringing the birds in.
    Had some plexiglass and a laundry soap bucket laying around so the gears got to turning.
    Home brewed this up , put seed in it and put it out first thing this morning. Got a chitload of doves some cardinals, and jays already today.:thumbs:
     

    Attached Files:

    Last edited by a moderator: Jan 16, 2016
    1964 262 6, Woodwidow, milleo and 3 others like this.
  14. Backwoods Savage

    Backwoods Savage Moderator

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2013
    Messages:
    48,182
    Likes Received:
    306,101
    Location:
    Central MI
    Good to hear you got them back.
     
    1964 262 6 likes this.
  15. Barcroftb

    Barcroftb

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2015
    Messages:
    3,137
    Likes Received:
    18,463
    Location:
    The Mitten
  16. ranger bob

    ranger bob

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2015
    Messages:
    448
    Likes Received:
    1,028
    Location:
    Leeburn Ontario
    Just the usual suspects around. Jays, Pine Grosbeaks, Evening Grosbeaks, Purple Finches, Woodpecker, Nuthatch and a couple red squirrels on the ground underneath. Pretty busy all day as they take turns once the Jays are full. Jays are bold and pushy bit leave when the woodpecker shows up. He must stab them pretty good. Sometimes there are about 50 -100 birds in the yard at a given time.
     
    1964 262 6 and Backwoods Savage like this.
  17. Paul bunion

    Paul bunion

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2013
    Messages:
    3,394
    Likes Received:
    13,495
    Location:
    NJ
    There seems to be fewer birds on our feeder this year but interestingly enough the same ones apparently do come back year to year. This bird was on our feeders for a few weeks last February and I saw several times again today. (picture from last year.) I didn't wrap a band around its ankle but I'd bet more than a years worth of wood that its the same bird as there aren't too many white juncos flying around. It's leucistic as opposed to being an albino, the distinction beng that it still has some color pigment. Pretty cool knowing that you are seeing the same birds year to year.

    [​IMG]
     
  18. ranger bob

    ranger bob

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2015
    Messages:
    448
    Likes Received:
    1,028
    Location:
    Leeburn Ontario
    That's neat! I'll bet you are right. Sometimes we have a lot of one type and then never see them again. About 20 years ago we used to get cedar wax wings. Then we seldom or never see them again. Same to a lesser extent with evening grosbeaks. Some show up but not many or often. Used to get like 50 or so at a time. Now we get a lot of pine grosbeaks and years ago none were around. I think there are more people feeding now as 8 families are here year round now. They probably put out tastier stuff as we just do black oiled sunflower seeds. If I ever build another feeder I'll try putting peanuts out as the big bags are only about $55. We always have our little chickadee friends and probably some other little guys. At one time we kept a journal and I seem to recall getting past 50 species. that included Osprey, both types of Eagles, Herons, Loons and various ducks as we're a lakefront property. We have heard the odd cardinal in the spring but seen a few scarlet tanagers and indigo buntings and bluebirds out on the farm field edge rows. with warming I hope the cardinals make their summer homes here. In the warm weather we bring an old leather couch down from the garage workshop and set it on the veranda. Great place to sit with coffee at sunrise, give thanks for our blessing and watch God's amazing creatures go about their business around they yard. We are blessed beyond measure. Happy birding!
     
  19. Paul bunion

    Paul bunion

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2013
    Messages:
    3,394
    Likes Received:
    13,495
    Location:
    NJ
    They have been all over the feeders today with it storming out. Juncos (but haven't seen the white one for a few days), goldfinches, house finches, downy wood peckers and cardinals.
     
    1964 262 6 likes this.
  20. JustWood

    JustWood Guest

    It was active for a couple days after I put up the "hillbilly" feeder. Now its mainly common sparrows "winged rats" if ya ask me. A few juncos . Had 6 morning doves at one time but they've disappeared now . Very few birds.
    Disappointed,,,, as I always liked sitting at the kitchen table watching.
    Ive not seen a woodpecker yet and im usually polluted with them.