Thanks! After seeing Huntindog1's post, as well as others, I though, ya know what, we need a hunting dog thread in the game room. Hopefully we can learn off of each other some of the tricks of the trade regarding training. I actually had a friend that was going to get a GSH ,in a few weeks from a reputable breeder, but unfortunately the first two were stillborn, and there was nothing the vet could do for the rest.