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Burning myths

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  1. hamsey

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    From the manual:
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    HIGH BURN: Fully load the firebox with wood on a bed of hot coals or on an actively flaming fire and fully open the primary air control by moving it fully to the left, away from the firebox. This will fully open the primary air shutter. A high burn rate is recommended once or twice a day to fully heat the stovepipe and chimney, which will help minimize creosote accumulation.
     
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  2. fox9988

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    I heard a new one the other day. A friend said, if an oak is dead standing too long, it will sour. Once soured, it won't burn good. I told him that was not my experience at all. I had cut oaks that had stood dead for years, css, season for 3-4 years and its primo stuff.
    ETA: I bet he has cut and immediately burned standing dead oak expecting it to be nice and dry, as it looks. Since the trunk didn't burn well (wet), it must be "soured". I checked an old post of mine, I had cut a standing dead red oak- MC near the base was ~50%.
     
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  3. Lumber-Jack

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    There's a lot of them out there for sure, some are neutered so badly even with the gate down they aren't big enough to hold a sheet of plywood. That's why I specified "full sized" PU.
     
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  4. shaggy wood dump hoarder

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    Neutered pick ups, never thought of that but it fits perfect! I had to do a little bit of searching even in Wisconsin to find a real truck. 4wd long bed truck. There are so many neutered(my new favorite word for short bed trucks) trucks out there it's ridiculous! I'm trying to wrap my head around why so many people would want one you can't haul anything! You can fit a lot more wood on a long bed.
     
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    I did business with a company that manufactured KONG dog toys. The also made a similar item that hung on the hitch that restored the neutering.
     
  6. MrWhoopee

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    That seems fine if done DAILY. Waiting 'til the stove is not drawing properly could produce disastrous results. :bug:
    Unfortunately, following these instructions with my stove would get the house over 100 degrees.
     
  7. Backwoods Savage

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    Yes, we've seen this before. It just shows that all are not up to date. It is just like things that come out of universities; they just look up the old methods and pass them on. I believe even the Old Farmer's Almanac prints old stuff, like getting your wood cut in October or November for the winter supply. Rather than checking on updates, they just keep printing old stuff that no longer should be done.
     
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    Perhaps it is because most folks really don't haul things in the pickups. It amazes me how many drive around in them when they could be driving a car. One case in point is a neighbor. Girl in college and working part-time. Needed another vehicle because her's was going bad. Had to have a pickup. Just because it is "cool."
     
  9. LongShot

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    I agree, but I gotta fess 'up and say my truck's bed is 5'10" front-to-back, interior length. It's a 2007 Nissan Frontier, and has a nice little cargo system with removable bed extender and tiedowns that fit in channels that run along the top inside of the bed. I've hauled a dozen sheets of 1" treated plywood securely. I'm real happy with the what I can haul in my truck. And, being honest, I wish I had a 3/4 ton, full bed truck. :D
     
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  10. Tsquini

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    Myth: you have so much wood you can sell me 2 cords, won't even miss it.
    Fact: I won't miss it until 2017.

    Myth: wood stoves pollute the air.
    Fact: people who don't know how to burn wood pollute the environment.

    Myth: wood does not season in the winter.
    Fact: it does.

    Myth: a pickup truck load of wood is a cord.
    Fact: it's not.
     
  11. shaggy wood dump hoarder

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    Meanwhile struggling to put gas in it for some reason. I have my truck that does not move unless i have something to haul,and i have my little 2door 4banger stick shift g5 for everything else,in fact i hate putting gas in my truck so much that I've hauled all of the tile in my bathroom in the car, she was squatting pretty good. :rofl: :lol: I've also hauled 24 2x4x10s in it, shifting with your elbow straight up above the shifter can be a bit awkward though:rofl: :lol:
     
  12. mikey517

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    I haul everything and anything in my truck. I love my truck - 2000 Toyota Tundra SR5 4.7 v8, 199,509 miles, 6'5" bed, plywood sheets lay flat between wheel wells. The bed is just not as deep as other full size trucks, but with some racks on the side, it gets the job done! (Thanks Toyota for the new frame etc.)
     

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    myth.......stove temps have no effect on the attire of one's significant other

    fact.......hmmmmmm
     
  14. boettg33

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    Sadly I see many "neutered" trucks on the road, and know many who go and buy trailers because their trucks are neutered. Now keep in mind that not all truck owners need to haul the same things.

    For example, I had my 1999 Dodge Dakota extra cab 5spd 4X2 with the 5.2 V8 with a 6.5' bed. I loaded that thing to the gills and then some, and never had a problem with the load. At the time I commute 35 miles to work getting an average of 20mpg. It was a very good truck. One that I could have fit a splitter in the back and towed up to 6500 lbs. I miss that truck, and wish I still had it today.

    Today if I did have a truck, I'd still keep my car as my commuter/run to town for things, etc..... Gas prices are on the rise again, and using a truck as a commuter is just not cost effective. Unfortunately far too many people have no clue what fiscal responsibility is. Instead they live off credit and just keep sinking further and further into a debt. Why buy a car that gets 30+ mpg for around 20k when I can sink 40K + into a truck that gets 20 mpgish.
     
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    33-40mpg for 12grand vs buying a truck even for half that it doesn't take long to pay for itself :) only problem is i find myself driving a lot more because it's more affordable with the car:p:picard::doh:
     
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    Yep I think thats the key right there, do it daily and its great advice wait till your chimney is dirty (bad burning practices should not get there any way) and its bad advice.
    As with many other subjects related to wood burning there are a lot of variables involved so knowing all the facts is important.
     
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    Myth?
    Burning Ash wood produces a lot of ashes. That's why they call it ash...
     
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    I haven't read through this thread, but I hope someone posted the myth about burning pine!

    THERE IT IS! IN THE VERY FIRST POST!

    Good old Dennis.
     
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    Many
     
  20. saskwoodburner

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    That would really depend on what you call winter. Now I know sublimation is a thing, but 2 weeks of summer does more for seasoning than 5 months of winter here.
     
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