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New baffle change for Grandma Fisher

Discussion in 'Non-EPA Woodstoves and Fireplaces' started by WeldrDave, Aug 23, 2014.

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    I've been beating this around for quite some time so today I did it.
    I put Grandmas baffle in a long while ago and it was only 1/4" (it's what I had at the time) It served the stove well and helped emensly with more heat and longer burns.
    Over the years the plate warped and it was a royal pain in the a$$ to clean the ash behind it, so I got a idea one dayo_O…. I make the plate thicker, longer to slow the burn down even more, and a diverter out of angle to push more heat to the sides and not up to the flue. Will it work???:confused:…. It should. I also cut some spiffy corners out so I can knock out the ash from behind the plate…. If all goes well, :whistle:…. This should increase my heat and use less wood, (in theory):whistle:… I still have plenty of space (sq in ) for even flow to the flue so I guess it all will come down to the test this winter:popcorn:…..
     

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    Looks good I have another piece of that 3/4 inch plate but would hate to see the shipping cost.
     
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    That piece I put in new is 3/8", I'll get another 20+ years out of that!:cool: I have quite a bit of plate lying around now, I almost used a piece of 1/2" but I think the 3/8 will be fine:).
     
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    Looks good Dave! I can see why you put it off for some time, it was a project.
    Looks like this season will be better knowing the new piece is installed and in good order.
     
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    I almost can't wait to try it out but winter will be on us soon enough.:popcorn:
     
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    I know what you mean Dave, we can count how close the old man (winter) is on one hand now.
     
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    I'm getting no where on my Fisher install.:(
     
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    So like a good project to have behind you. I don't know how you'll objectivly measure your results with condition always changing. I did hear that there no conditions forming up to allow another polar vortex this winter.
    The only way I know to predict winter weather is to get up each morning, look out the window, that's your winter weather.
     
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    Curious to know how it's working Dave. :binoculars:
     
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    Haven't fired it off yet, but I may this week if it gets as cold as they are saying… I'll keep you posted.
     
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    Update for all you who either added or considering the baffle, I fired her off last night for the first time this year. "As" I expected I got a little burb back in the house, "not enough heat to cause the draw yet" After my stack temp got up over 200* it started heating like a dream!!! :D Much more heat going to the surface of the stove and when I opened the doors, it fired heat right in the room!!:cool::banana:… It's still early in the experiment but it's looking up!:drunk:
     
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    Your upturned angle is kind of what I meant but turned down instead. Kinda to roll the smoke around.
     
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    Good job, I might have my Fisher installed this weekend.
     
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    I understood, My thought there was to try and stop as much flame going to the flue as possible "longer burn" My only concern with the angle turned the other way would be a burb in the smoke. As it is, I'm getting a small amount on light off with this configuration. This baffle is longer and has the angle so I think I'm "just" pushing the limits of the air box area, Mathematically it has the correct area but I would'nt go any bigger with this one. After about an hour, the old girl was "cranking" out heat!:D
     
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    Ok Guy's, "UPDATE"! As you all know I made this baffle a bit longer and added the angle… Well The pro and cons are on the table now! I've burned a few good fires now and I have been cold iron for a few days and did my usual light offs tonight after work a bit ago. "the cons" I never used to get a "burp" of smoke in the house on initial light off, now I do o_O… I'm going to have to either live with it or trim it back about an inch…:eek: "the Pros" "ONCE" its fired and burning, "no problems what so ever" even opening the door to re-load. and most of all it is KICKING A$$ with heat!!! I think for now I'm going to live with the con and figure out a method to at least not get that initial burst of smoke in the room. My thoughts here are it was a 90% success so I'm happy:cool:.
     
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    I've noticed a slight burp it mine as well. Not all the time and no real consistent factor that I've noticed other than on warmer days. I agree with kicking heat though. Lit her off around 12:15 last night and did not reload until about 1 this afternoon and still had hot coals for a relight. Used to be an 8 hour deal.
     
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    Not real familiar with any others but does yours have a flap in the front at the top. Seems like as long as I don't leave this up after loading it doesn't burp.
     
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    No, Once mine is up to temp, I don't get any burp because of the heat flow. It's only on initial light off and only until the flue temps get hotter. Once I'm above 200* I don't seem to get it.
     
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    WeldrDave,

    How close is the angle iron from the outlet?
     
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    Are you meaning on my Grandma bear Fisher?