my 3 year plan or "why my wife says you guys are a bad influence"

Nice work there jetjr. I just finished getting through the thread. Great job.

 

Thanks Gasifier. Razo it's a simple mod that makes a difference. Those stoves are pretty bullet proof.

 

Thats was my plan but my wife give up before that

 

jetjr WeldrDave

I'm really considering this baffle idea, I have the steel it would just be a matter of firing up the plasma cutter and setting her in place. It just rests in there right? you don't have it tacked to the tubes?

Now my only concern is this diagram about my stove (Allnighter Mid Mo) and how it claims to have a crude secondary burn system and even a "third air" feature. By installing the baffle would I be messing all this up or causing the stove not to work as properly? Seems there is some sort of baffle in the door to direct the incoming air inlets into different parts of the stove. Should I just leave well enough alone in this case?

 

Razo that's correct it's just sitting on the tubes if it causes any problems it can be removed easily. I've never seen that diagram but WeldrDave may know something about it. In my opinion the heat still just went right out the pipe.

 

Razo I just noticed what welderdave is saying. My tubes run at an angle in the stove. Now I'm curious to know how yours is.

 

The old Englander 24 also has two draft caps in the door, like the drawing above. Then they welded an angled baffle plate to the back wall to shoot the smoke to the front, to burn it again. Stove can be top- or rear-vented.

 

jetjr WeldrDave Here is the inside of the mid mo

 

Yea I agree with weldrdave though I only used an 8" wide piece as mine has a large thimble inside and that left me with a little more than a 5"opening at the top.

 

jetjr WeldrDave Man I'm pretty excited about this, it makes so much sense, the flame would be going right out the thimble if no plate is in place. All I currently have it 3/8" and 1" plate, think I better go with the 1". I mean its so overkill but it will hold some nice heat

 

Just don't get your hand stuck like I did putting mine in. Wife thought I was kidding and took her good old time getting me a pry bar.

 

Bare face hangin' out... hate it when they do that...

 

WeldrDave jetjr

Alright so I made a template last night out of cardboard. 13" long by 7" wide. How does this look to you guys? Should I extend it out into the stove a little more? Like maybe try 10" instead of 7"? I'm nervous to close off too much of the flue. But looking at this, I don't know if I have enough covered. My tubes go up at a pretty steep angle so if I had a plate long enough it would extend right up to the top of the burn chamber and seal it, obviously I don't want that but I don't know how close I should get to that point.

 

Razo I agree with weldrdave that 9" would be fine just try a small fire first and watch how it acts.

 

jetjr WeldrDave

Thanks a lot for the insight guys! I think I'll whip up a piece of plate around 9" and see how she does.

 

Wow just realized we have the same stove jetjr didn't even take notice to that in your signature. Mine is the mid mo - don't know what size yours is or how that effects the positioning of the tubes but I should be able to use your measurements exactly since we have the same stove. Just realized that when I use a thicker plate (thicker than the cardboard template) I will probably hit the thimble like yours did and not be able to slide down under it like the cardboard. That may make an 8" width more viable. I better make a template out of an old 1x8 lumber scrap just to be sure. Was your length 13" if you recall?